Is Is acceleration due to gravity and gravity same thing?

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The discussion centers on the distinction between "acceleration due to gravity" and "gravity," including their definitions, units of measurement, and the implications of these terms in different contexts such as physics education and engineering. Participants explore the conceptual and technical aspects of these terms without reaching a consensus.

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  • Some participants assert that "acceleration due to gravity" is an acceleration measured in m/s², while "gravity" refers to an interaction, leading to ambiguity in its definition.
  • One participant recounts a classroom experience where they were asked for the unit of "gravity," leading to confusion between "Newton" (force) and "m/s²" (acceleration due to gravity).
  • Another participant emphasizes that asking for the units of "gravity" is a poor question, suggesting that gravity itself is not a measurable quantity, but rather its effects can be quantified.
  • Some participants discuss the gravitational force and its relation to mass, indicating that the force of gravity is measured in Newtons, while acceleration due to gravity is often represented as 'g'.
  • A participant mentions that at a unit level, the force of gravitation and acceleration due to gravity can be seen as equivalent, but this equivalence may not hold for larger masses.
  • There is a suggestion that the teacher should have asked for the unit of gravitational field strength to clarify the intended question.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions and implications of "gravity" versus "acceleration due to gravity." Multiple competing views remain regarding the clarity and appropriateness of the terminology used in educational contexts.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of "gravity" and "acceleration due to gravity," as well as the assumptions underlying the units of measurement. The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations and applications of these terms without resolving the ambiguities.

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Is Is "acceleration due to gravity" and "gravity" same thing?

Is "acceleration due to gravity" and "gravity" same thing? If not what are they measured in (units)?

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Alip.
 
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The acceleration due to gravity is (obviously) an acceleration, and thus has units of m/s^2. The term "gravity" labels a kind of interaction, so it's not clear what specific aspect you are referring to. What do you mean by it? The force of gravity, perhaps? (Give an example.)
 


Doc Al said:
The acceleration due to gravity is (obviously) an acceleration, and thus has units of m/s^2. The term "gravity" labels a kind of interaction, so it's not clear what specific aspect you are referring to. What do you mean by it? The force of gravity, perhaps? (Give an example.)

In my engineering class, we were asked to tell the unit of the Gravity by our teacher. I said "Newton" but my teacher wrote metre per second squared. who's correct? I knew that was the unit for "acceleration due to gravity" but I din't say anything because some people use "gravity" term for "acceleration due to gravity".

cheers,
Alip.
 


Doc Al said:
The acceleration due to gravity is (obviously) an acceleration, and thus has units of m/s^2. The term "gravity" labels a kind of interaction, so it's not clear what specific aspect you are referring to. What do you mean by it? The force of gravity, perhaps? (Give an example.)

here, by "gravity" i mean the interaction between two masses but I don't know what "gravity" my teacher was referring to.
 


I will second what the knowledgeable Doc Al has said. Asking what the units of 'gravity' are is a poor question, and doesn't make sense. As a loose example of what Doc Al is saying, imagine asking what the units of 'electromagnetism' are, for instance.

Gravitational force, i.e.:

[tex] F=\frac{G m_1 m_2}{r^2}<br /> [\tex]<br /> <br /> is a force - the force of attraction due to gravity between two bodies of masses m1 and m2, and is measured in Newtons.<br /> <br /> Acceleration due to gravity (something I imagine you will be more familiar with) is oft given as 'little g':<br /> <br /> [tex] g=\frac{Gm}{r^2}<br /> [\tex]<br /> <br /> - and as you have correctly stated, this has units of acceleration. It's worth thinking that gravity itself isn't a measureable quantity as such, it's the effects of gravity that we quantify.[/tex][/tex]
 


fasterthanjoao said:
I will second what the knowledgeable Doc Al has said. Asking what the units of 'gravity' are is a poor question, and doesn't make sense. As a loose example of what Doc Al is saying, imagine asking what the units of 'electromagnetism' are, for instance.

Gravitational force, i.e.:

[tex] F=\frac{G m_1 m_2}{r^2}<br /> [\tex]<br /> <br /> is a force - the force of attraction due to gravity between two bodies of masses m1 and m2, and is measured in Newtons.<br /> <br /> Acceleration due to gravity (something I imagine you will be more familiar with) is oft given as 'little g':<br /> <br /> [tex] g=\frac{Gm}{r^2}<br /> [\tex]<br /> <br /> - and as you have correctly stated, this has units of acceleration. It's worth thinking that gravity itself isn't a measureable quantity as such, it's the effects of gravity that we quantify.[/tex][/tex]
[tex][tex] <br /> oh ok, I am sort of clear now. my teacher shouldn't have asked the unit of "Gravity", that's so stupid and made me confused; rather he should have asked the unit of "Force of Gravitation". I did Force of Gravitation in Standard 10 and it was really interesting.<br /> <br /> cheers,<br /> Alip.[/tex][/tex]
 


Newton08 said:
In my engineering class, we were asked to tell the unit of the Gravity by our teacher. I said "Newton" but my teacher wrote metre per second squared. who's correct? I knew that was the unit for "acceleration due to gravity" but I din't say anything because some people use "gravity" term for "acceleration due to gravity".
Newtonian gravity is modeled as a field with a field strength measured in units of acceleration. Newtons are a unit of the "force due to gravity" exerted on a certain mass, which is equal to the field strength times the mass.
Newton08 said:
oh ok, I am sort of clear now. my teacher shouldn't have asked the unit of "Gravity", that's so stupid and made me confused; rather he should have asked the unit of "Force of Gravitation".
No, he should have asked you for the unit of the gravitational field strength, to get the answer he wanted.
 
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A.T. said:
Newtonian gravity is modeled as a field with a field strength measured in units of acceleration. Newtons are a unit of the "force due to gravity" exerted on a certain mass, which is equal to the field strength times the mass.

No, he should have asked you for the unit of the gravitational field strength, to get the answer he wanted.


thanks for all the answers.
 


the term force represents the resistive action which may decrease your velocity or increase. the change of velocity which is uniform is called acceleration.here acceleration due to gravity value is 9.8 m/s^2 and we feel the Earth is making to change our change in velocity by 9.8 m/s per second.this change is observed or assumed to be force .so for unit body(1kg) is 9.8N or simply 9.8 m/s^2. and for whole body is its x times the 9.8 N or 9.8m?s^2
so for very unit level the force of gravitation and acceleration of gravity is same . They give the same physical meaning .But for whole mass its multiple of X.So this gives the quantum nature of gravity.
 
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Amrit N said:
the term force represents the resistive action which may decrease your velocity or increase. the change of velocity which is uniform is called acceleration.here acceleration due to gravity value is 9.8 m/s^2 and we feel the Earth is making to change our change in velocity by 9.8 m/s per second.this change is observed or assumed to be force .so for unit body(1kg) is 9.8N or simply 9.8 m/s^2. and for whole body is its x times the 9.8 N or 9.8m?s^2
so for very unit level the force of gravitation and acceleration of gravity is same . They give the same physical meaning .But for whole mass its multiple of X.So this gives the quantum nature of gravity.

thanks.
 

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