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transgalactic
May30-09, 02:34 PM
U(t)=1
Vs(t)=V_0 U(t)
(Vc)' + \frac{1}{RC}Vc=\frac{1}{RC}Vc=\frac{1}{RC}V_0
(Vc)' + \frac{1}{RC}Vc(t)=\frac{1}{RC}V_0
given:
Vc(0^+)=0
from her i cant under anything regarding the term of use:
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homogeneous solution is:
(V_ch)'+\frac{1}{RC}Vch=0
we guess a solution from the form of
V_ch=Ae^{st}
and substitute into the homogeneous equation:
\int Ae^{st} +\frac{1}{rc}Ae^{st}=0
"
these are only the first two steps but i cant understand why are they doing that
the youtube solution differs alot
??
HallsofIvy
May30-09, 03:01 PM
U(t)=1
Vs(t)=V_0 U(t)
(Vc)' + \frac{1}{RC}Vc=\frac{1}{RC}Vc=\frac{1}{RC}V_0
I don't understand this. Did you mean to have those two "=" or is this a typo?
(Vc)' + \frac{1}{RC}Vc(t)=\frac{1}{RC}V_0
Okay, is this what you meant above?
given:
Vc(0^+)=0
from her i cant under anything regarding the term of use:
"
homogeneous solution is:
(V_ch)'+\frac{1}{RC}Vch=0
Well, that's the "associated homogeneous equation", not yet a "solution".
You can rewrite it as dV_{ch}/V_{ch}= (-1/RC)dt and integrate that.
ln(V_{ch})= -t/RC+ K and taking exponentials of both sides, V_{ch}= K_1e^{t/RC} where K_1= e^K.
we guess a solution from the form of
V_ch=Ae^{st}
and substitute into the homogeneous equation:
\int Ae^{st} +\frac{1}{rc}Ae^{st}=0
Why an integral? V_{ch}' is the derivative
(Ae^{st})'+ \frac{1}{rc}Ae^{st}= sAe^{st}+ \frac{1}{rc}Ae^{st}= 0
so the exponentials cancel leaving s+ 1/rc= 0. s= -1/rc and the solution becomes Ae^{t/rc} just as before. That method is more often used with higher order differential equations where you cannot integrate as I did above.
these are only the first two steps but i cant understand why are they doing that
the youtube solution differs alot
??
You can justify that method by arguing that for y(x) something like Ay"+ By'+ Cy= 0, a "linear equation with constant coefficients", in order that y and its derivatives cancel, to give 0, y' and y" must be the same "kind" of function as y. Exponentials do that nicely: the derivative of [itex]e^{ax} is ae^{ax}, the same exponential multiplied by a.
But you should be aware this is not based on any idea that a solution MUST be an exponential! For example, The equation y"= 0 has general solution y= Ax+ B and y"+ y= 0 has general solution y= A cos x+ B sin x. Since those solutions are indirectly related to exponentials, "trying" e^{sx} can still lead you to them.
transgalactic
May30-09, 03:09 PM
U(t) is called the shock function
it equals 1 in this case
Vs=vo*U(t) (Vs the voltage of the source)
does this help ??
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