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wasteofo2
Jun25-04, 11:27 PM
Is there anyone, Conservative or Liberal, who can honestly say that they think Bush was the right choice in retrospect, and that McCain would have done worse than Bush? I was just talking with a friend of mine, (we're both liberals), and we both agreed that it was pathetic Kerry would be the one to have to oust Bush, and that McCain would have been such an awesome candidate, and that we'd both support McCain over Kerry any day. Does anyone have any insight as to how Bush actually beat McCain? I mean, Bush was billed as the rich idiot who's riding his dad's fame all along, even since the 2000 Republican Primaries, wheras McCain's a war hero and just regarded so well by Democrats and Republicans.

Side note hypothetical situation: Let's say some major sh|t were to go down and in the eyes of the Republicans, Bush had lost credibility and had a slim chance of victory, and McCain challenged him for the GOP ticket. First of all, if you intended to vote Bush, would you support McCain over Bush, and if McCain won, would you change from voting GOP to Kerry, or Kerry to McCain?
phatmonky
Jun26-04, 12:02 AM
Would vote for McCain over Bush.
faust9
Jun26-04, 12:07 AM
Bush beat McCain via slander and a push poll.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Push_poll
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/10/campaign.wrap/

McCain was called everything from a liar to a traitor to a coward. Carl Rove oversaw this all BTW.
faust9
Jun26-04, 12:08 AM
Would vote for McCain over Bush.

Exactly!

McCain=Conservative Republican
Bush=NeoCon (they have affiliated themselves with my party but they should not be called repubs IMO)
kyleb
Jun26-04, 11:04 AM
Bush beat McCain becuase coprate leaders control the media, which has strong control over public perception, and uses that power to elect people who will do their bidding. this is also why we have Kerry as the democratic nominee.
Dissident Dan
Jun26-04, 01:11 PM
I would still vote for Kerry, even though McCain is my favorite Republican.
wasteofo2
Jun26-04, 07:08 PM
Bush beat McCain becuase coprate leaders control the media, which has strong control over public perception, and uses that power to elect people who will do their bidding. this is also why we have Kerry as the democratic nominee.
Well, that may be part of it, but I think the main reason was Howard Deans actions all on his own. :rofl:

By the way, I voted "Intended to vote Kerry, would vote for McCain."