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JonF
Jun26-04, 01:31 PM
i for the life of me can't figure out how to integrate this:

\int \sin{(x^{1/2})} dx

Muzza
Jun26-04, 02:34 PM
Make the substitution u = \sqrt{x} which will turn the integral into something like \int \left(\sin{u} \times 2\sqrt{x}\right) du. Apply the substitution again and use integration by parts...

cookiemonster
Jun26-04, 02:35 PM
We don't have enough x's in there, so use integration by parts to get some. Let u = sin(x^(1/2)) and dv = dx. After that, you'll get an integral that can be solved through a substitution and then a couple of applications of by parts.

cookiemonster

JonF
Jun26-04, 03:31 PM
thanks, got it now

JonF
Jun29-04, 10:39 PM
Ok a new integral I can’t figure out how to take

\int \frac{1}{4y^{2} - 4y - 3} dy

Any suggestions?

cookiemonster
Jun29-04, 10:45 PM
Partial fractions.

cookiemonster

JonF
Jun30-04, 03:09 PM
Oops I posted the wrong integral, I meant:
\int \frac{1}{(4y^{2} - 4y - 3)^{1/2}} dy

Zurtex
Jun30-04, 03:53 PM
Oops I posted the wrong integral, I meant:
\int \frac{1}{(4y^{2} - 4y - 3)^{1/2}} dy
Try completing the square and using a substitution of what you get inside the ()^2 bit. It should then be a simple matter of knocking it into standard form.

TenNen
Jun30-04, 03:57 PM
Try making a change till you get the folowing formula
\int \frac{1}{((Y-A)^2+B^2)^{1/2}} dY
Sorry I forgot the formula of how to go on, you can check it out in your textbooks.

Zurtex
Jun30-04, 04:35 PM
This might help (a standard form)

\int \frac{1}{(x^2 + a^2)^{\frac{1}{2}}} dx = \ln \left(x + \sqrt{x^2 + a^2} \right)

Though it would appear to me you are on the wrong track. Have checked your integral out at http://integrals.wolfram.com (you need to check their syntax on how to input function it's a little temperamental)

Parth Dave
Jun30-04, 04:39 PM
My suggestion is complete the square on the denominator. Than it should be a matter of using a trig substitution. Looks to me like it will be a secant substitution.