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HamedJafarian
Sep7-09, 08:25 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
How can I prove that the set of rational rational of the form P/2^n for n,p belong to Z is dense in R?


2. Relevant equations

How can I prove that a set is dense in R?

3. The attempt at a solution
I do not know how to check dense in R!

tiny-tim
Sep7-09, 05:50 PM
How can I prove that the set of rational rational of the form P/2^n for n,p belong to Z is dense in R?

Hi Hamed! Welcome to PF! :smile:

With questions like this, always start with the definition …

what definition has your professor given you for a dense subset?

wofsy
Sep7-09, 06:22 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
How can I prove that the set of rational rational of the form P/2^n for n,p belong to Z is dense in R?


2. Relevant equations

How can I prove that a set is dense in R?

3. The attempt at a solution
I do not know how to check dense in R!

You need to think about how R is defined.

HamedJafarian
Sep8-09, 03:35 AM
Hi Hamed! Welcome to PF! :smile:

With questions like this, always start with the definition …

what definition has your professor given you for a dense subset?

Y is a subset of X,Y is dense in X, if for every x that belog to X, there is y blong to Y that is arbitary close to x.

tiny-tim
Sep8-09, 04:26 AM
Y is a subset of X,Y is dense in X, if for every x that belog to X, there is y blong to Y that is arbitary close to x.

ok … then you need to prove that, for any number x in R, there is a number p/2n arbitrarily close to x.

Hint: choose epsilon = 1/2m :wink:

HamedJafarian
Sep8-09, 04:31 AM
ok … then you need to prove that, for any number x in R, there is a number p/2n arbitrarily close to x.

Hint: choose epsilon = 1/2m :wink:

Is it correct for when the p ,n are blong to Z?
and with is it m?

tiny-tim
Sep8-09, 04:46 AM
Is it correct for when the p ,n are blong to Z?
and with is it m?

sorry, Hamed, I've no idea what you mean. :redface:

anyway, I'm talking about the standard δ, ε proof … do you know what that is? :smile:

tiny-tim
Sep8-09, 05:19 AM
Hi Hamed! Thanks for the PM. :smile:

(copy my "ε"! :wink:)
I mean that i must show that for every eps and x, there is a y that y-x<eps.how can i show this one?


Choose m so that 1/2m < ε,

and then … ? :smile: