Special relativity problem (momentum and velocity)

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The discussion revolves around a special relativity problem involving the momentum and velocity of a particle that is accelerated to double its initial momentum. The original poster presents calculations based on relativistic equations to determine the final velocity of the particle after acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the relativistic momentum equation and the Lorentz factor to find the final velocity. Some participants question the arithmetic and the assumptions made in the calculations, while others suggest focusing on expressing momentum entirely in terms of the final velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants providing feedback on calculations and clarifying assumptions. There is acknowledgment of potential rounding in the book's answer, but no consensus on the exact cause of the discrepancy in the final velocity calculations.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying relativistic equations and the potential for rounding errors in published solutions. The original poster also expresses uncertainty about their arithmetic and the implications of their results.

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Homework Statement


A particle traveling at 8 E7 m/s is accelerated so that its momentum doubles. What is the final velocity of the particle?

Homework Equations


p=ym0v
y= 1 / sqr(1-(v/c)^2)
p2= 2(p1)
Where p2 is the final momentum and p1 the initial

The Attempt at a Solution


For the initial velocity gamma=1,0376
p1 is therefore, calculated with m0=1 (I put it this way thinking it was not relevant to the problem, and it was meant to be eliminated when finding p2) 83008000 kg m/s
I tried to compare the two equations for the relativistic momentum but the best i came up with was that (v2)x(y2)=166016000 m/s
Given that the result written on the book is 1,5 E8 m/s, y2 must be 1,107
because y2= 2y1v1 / v2
But for a velocity of 1,5 E8 m/s (0,5c), the dilatation factor is 1,154
I really don't know, I keep trying the same method, I can't see a different way to resolve it

Sorry for the bad english, not my lenguage
Thanks to everybody in advance
 
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Quazswed said:
A particle traveling at 8 E8 m/s
That can't be right. What is the speed?
 
uops, I'm sorry, i meant E7
anyway I used 8 E7 in the equations
Also, edited in the first post, thanks for pointing that out
 
Quazswed said:
I tried to compare the two equations for the relativistic momentum but the best i came up with was that (v2)x(y2)=166016000 m/s
Assuming your arithmetic is correct (I didn't check) write the left hand side entirely in terms of v2. Then solve for v2.
 
2y1v1 is = 166011471 m/s, I think it's correct now

so

2y1v1 = 166011471 m/s = k

y2= 1 / sqr(1-(v2/c)2)

v2 / sqr(1-(v2/c)2) = k

v2^2 = k^2 - k^2(v2/c)^2

(k^2/c^2 +1)v2 = k^2

v2 = sqr( k^2 / (k^2/c^2 +1))

which is 145254607 m/s, it's so close to 150000000 m/s

Is this an error caused by bad arithmetic or something else, more important?
 
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Quazswed said:
which is 145254607 m/s, it's so close to 150000000 m/s

Is this an error caused by bad arithmetic or something else, more important?
It's not an error. The book just rounded off to 2 digits.
 
Seems like I was too pessimistic then :)
Thank you very, very much for your help
 

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