Voltage would a 737. microfarad capacitor

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The discussion revolves around the charging of a 737 microfarad capacitor by a 5.0 mA current over a duration of 2.0 seconds. Participants explore the relevant equations and concepts related to capacitors, including charge, voltage, and current, while seeking clarification on how to approach the problem.

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  • One participant presents the initial problem and attempts to apply the formula t=R/C, but expresses confusion at a certain point.
  • Another participant explains the exponential charging behavior of capacitors and provides the relevant equations, noting that the charging process is not instantaneous.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the explanations provided, indicating a lack of understanding of the concepts discussed.
  • A participant suggests using the fundamental capacitor equation Q=CV to relate charge and voltage, emphasizing the need for rearranging the formula and understanding current flow.
  • Another participant shares their experience of poor instruction and expresses a desire for explanations rather than direct answers, indicating a preference for learning the underlying concepts.
  • A later reply draws an analogy between current flow and water flow to illustrate how charge accumulates in the capacitor over time, while also questioning how to calculate the resulting voltage.

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Participants generally express confusion and seek clarification on the problem, with no clear consensus on the approach to take. Multiple viewpoints on how to understand and solve the problem are present, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants reference various equations and concepts related to capacitors, but there are indications of missing assumptions or definitions that could clarify the discussion. The understanding of the relationship between current, charge, and voltage appears to be a point of contention.

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To what voltage would a 737. microfarad capacitor be charged by a 5.0. mA current lasting 2.0 seconds.



t=R/C
T=Time
R=Resistance
C=Capacitance

Q=CV




R=TC
2x.000737=.001474
Then I'm stuck at this point


Can anyone explain this please?
 
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Hi xpack! :smile:

From the PF Library on capacitor (put V0 = 0 :wink:) …

Inverse exponential rate of charging:

A capacitor does not charge or discharge instantly.

When a steady voltage [itex]V_1[/itex] is first applied, through a circuit of resistance [itex]R[/itex], to a capacitor across which there is already a voltage [itex]V_0[/itex], both the charging current [itex]I[/itex] in the circuit and the voltage difference [itex]V_1\,-\,V[/itex] change exponentially, with a parameter [itex]-1/CR[/itex]:

[tex]I(t) = \frac{V_1\,-\,V_0}{R}\,e^{-\frac{1}{CR}\,t}[/tex]

[tex]V_1\ -\ V(t) = (V_1\,-\,V_0)\,e^{-\frac{1}{CR}\,t}[/tex]

So the current becomes effectively zero, and the voltage across the capacitor becomes effectively [itex]V_1[/itex], after a time proportional to [itex]CR[/itex].
 


I'm not sure I understand
 


xpack said:
I'm not sure I understand

That's because tiny-tim was answering a different question (assumption of voltage source and equalization of capacitor voltage).

Instead, use the capacitor equation: [itex]Q=CV[/itex]

(Yes, you'll need to do some rearranging, and use a formula for current--c'mon, we can't do all the work for you!)
 


Well I've never seen a problem like this. Our teacher gives very poor lectures and then assigns homework another teacher created so I really don't know anything. I'd rather yall not give me the answer and instead explain it, so that way for future reference I know how to work it myself.
 


xpack said:
Well I've never seen a problem like this. Our teacher gives very poor lectures and then assigns homework another teacher created so I really don't know anything. I'd rather yall not give me the answer and instead explain it, so that way for future reference I know how to work it myself.

I suspect that this is THE standard capacitor question (since I'd seen it in both my intro electromagnetics course, as well as my intro circuit analysis course). It's designed to show you that a capacitor is a device that stores charge, and that current is just the flow of charge.

First off, the fundamental capacitor equation [itex]Q=CV[/itex] means that the voltage across a capacitor is related to the charge accumulated by the capacitor, by the (inverse of) the capacitance.

I'll use an analogy here. Imagine you have some flowing water, 0.1 L/s. Now you have a beaker with a cross-section of 100 cm^2. In 2 seconds, how high is the water in the beaker?

Now, current is just a flow of electrons [itex]i=\frac{Q}{t}[/itex]. With a flow of 5 mA (or 5 mC/s), and 2 seconds of flow, how many coloumbs of electrons would accumulate in the capacitor, and consequently, how much voltage would you measure across this capacitor?
 

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