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iamsmooth
Oct25-09, 02:08 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Find the slope of the curve y=\frac{x}{3x+2} at the point x = -2.
2. Relevant equations
\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x_{0} + h) - f(x_{0})}{h} = m
3. The attempt at a solution
If x = -2, then y = 1/2. I'm not sure what to do from here.
This is the first step, but I don't get how you obtain this:
\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{\frac{-2+h}{3(-2+h)+2}-\frac{1}{2}}{h}
I just need an explanation of what we're doing here and why?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Office_Shredder
Oct25-09, 02:22 AM
This would be very difficult to get from the definition of a limit. You probably have something called the quotient rule that will help greatly
iamsmooth
Oct25-09, 02:29 AM
The differentiation rules aren't introduced for another one and a half chapters in my text book. This part is introducing a definition to the slope of a curve. It says:
The slope of a curve C at a point P is the slope of the tangent line to C at P if such a tangent line exists. In particular, the slope of the graph of y = f(x) at the point x0 is
\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x_{0} + h) - f(x_{0})}{h} = m
And after this definition, it gives the example that I posted. I have the answer, just don't understand any of it :(
Pengwuino
Oct25-09, 03:06 AM
This can be done with some algebraic manipulation. Let your first term in the numerator be \frac{-2+h}{3h-4} and get the second term of 1/2 into that same form so that you can take 3h-4 under the denominator of the whole and go from there.
HallsofIvy
Oct25-09, 06:15 AM
f(x)= \frac{x}{3x+ 2}
so f(x_0+h)= \frac{x_0+h}{3(x_0+h)+ 2}= \frac{x_0+h}{3x_0+3h+2}
f(x_0+h)- f(x_0)= \frac{x_0+h}{3(x_0+h)+ 2}= \frac{x_0+h}{3x_0+3h+2}- \frac{x}{3x+ 2}
The "common denominator" is (3x_0+ 2)(3x_0+ 3h+ 2). Multiplying numerator and denominator of the first fraction by 3x_0+ 2 and the numerator and denominator of the second fraction by 3x_0+ 3h+ 2,
\frac{(x_0+h)(3x_0+ 2)}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}- \frac{(x_0)(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}
Multiply out the products in the numerators. You can leave the denominators as they are:
\frac{3x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 3hx_0+ 2h}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}- \frac{3x_0^2+ 3hx_0+ 2x_0}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}
Now you see that the "3x_0^2", "3hx_0", and "2x_0" terms cancel leaving
\frac{2h}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}
That is f(x_0+ h)- f(x_0). To form the "difference quotient" divide by h:
\frac{f(x_0+ h)- f(x_0)}{h}= \frac{2h}{h(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}= \frac{2}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}.
Finally, take the limit as h goes to 0. Since setting h to 0 does not make the denominator 0, you can do that simply by setting h= 0.
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