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SuckIt
Nov2-09, 05:39 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
two metal plates 10mm thin are held a distance 40mm apart with a P.D. 10V across them. +ve plate on left. In between the plates is a vacuum (free space basically). Calculate the charges and electric fields within this system.


2. Relevant equations
Q=VC
C = εo.A/d
No surface area given, so how to do it?

E = V/d can be done but is that what is asked for?

3. The attempt at a solution
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Delphi51
Nov2-09, 10:32 PM
E = V/d gives you the electric field between the plates and you can use Gauss' Law to get the charge per unit area on each plate.

SuckIt
Nov3-09, 12:59 PM
no surface area, bra`

ok so gauss' law is...
\nabla \cdot \mathbf{E} = \frac{\rho}{\varepsilon_0}

so how do I use that?

buffordboy23
Nov6-09, 10:06 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
two metal plates 10mm thin are held a distance 40mm apart with a P.D. 10V across them. +ve plate on left. In between the plates is a vacuum (free space basically). Calculate the charges and electric fields within this system.


2. Relevant equations
Q=VC
C = εo.A/d
No surface area given, so how to do it?

E = V/d can be done but is that what is asked for?

So you can determine the electric field. Recall for parallel plates that

E = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_{0}}

Sigma is the surface charge density. In other words the amount of charge per area. How can you use these ideas for your problem?

mikelepore
Nov6-09, 11:06 PM
The electric field inside a parallel plate capacitor:


E = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_{0}}


My book doesn't have that 2 in the denominator.

buffordboy23
Nov6-09, 11:23 PM
The electric field inside a parallel plate capacitor:



My book doesn't have that 2 in the denominator.

Thank you. You are correct. The equation I gave was for the field due to a single plate. Since there are two plates superposition gives


E = \frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_{0}}


for points internal to the plates.