Calculating the angular momentum of rotating objects

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of angular momentum for rotating objects, specifically addressing the contributions from both the linear motion of the center of mass and the rotational motion about the center of mass. Participants explore the implications of these calculations and the assumptions involved.

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  • One participant suggests that calculating angular momentum by summing the contributions of infinitesimal masses may overlook the additional spin of each mass element, potentially leading to an underestimation of total angular momentum.
  • Another participant counters that the total angular momentum of a real object is correctly represented by the sum of the angular momentum due to the center of mass and the rotational motion about the center of mass, providing a formula for clarification.
  • A third participant expresses difficulty in interpreting figures related to the discussion, indicating a potential barrier to understanding the technical content presented.
  • Subsequent replies include a comment about the participant's browser version, suggesting a technical issue rather than a conceptual one.

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There is disagreement regarding the initial claim about the calculation of angular momentum, with one participant asserting a potential flaw in the reasoning while another defends the standard approach to calculating angular momentum in real objects.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of angular momentum calculations and the assumptions made regarding the motion of mass elements. There are unresolved aspects related to the interpretation of visual aids and the technical details of the formulas presented.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in physics, particularly those exploring concepts related to angular momentum, rotational dynamics, and the mathematical representations of these phenomena.

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Calculating the angular momentum of rotating objects.

When the angular momentum is computed you add all the individual angular momenta of infinitesimally small masses tilll you get the total, right ?

But doesn't that give a wrong answer - because each tiny piece of the object (rotating disk or whatever) is not just obiting the center, it's also spinning once on its own axis for every revolution of the disk.
So the total angular momentum of real objects will be higher than that for a bunch of particles circling a central axis but maintaining their orientation with no spin.

Do I have this right or am I all wrong ? ;-)
 
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You have it wrong. The angular momentum of a real object (i.e., a non-point mass) is the angular momentum due to the linear momentum of the object's center of mass plus the rotational motion of the object about its center of mass:

[tex]\vec L_{\text{tot}} = m \vec r_{\text{cm}}\times \vec v_{\text{cm}} + \boldsymbol I \vec{\omega}[/tex]

This is equal to the sum of the angular momenta of the components of the object.
 
Sorry, I can't see those figures on my computer, they just look like crazy squiggles on a black background and i can't make them out. Is there an easy way to see them in some other format or whatever ?

Thanks for the answer btw.
 
You must be using a very old version of Internet Exploder.
 
version 6
 

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