How do pelican crossings work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the operation of pelican crossings, specifically how the pedestrian signal is activated when a button is pressed. Participants explore the mechanisms behind the traffic light system, including potential electronic components and differences in pedestrian crossing systems across regions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specific mechanism that generates the green man signal after the pedestrian button is pressed, suggesting a capacitor might be involved.
  • Another participant explains that pelican crossings operate on mains power and describe a typical cycle involving amber and red lights for drivers and a green light for pedestrians, proposing that a microcontroller is likely used for reliability and complexity.
  • Several participants express confusion about the term "pelican crossing," with one noting it is a standard term in the UK for pedestrian-controlled traffic signals.
  • A participant from Canada contrasts the functionality of pedestrian crosswalks there, indicating that the button has minimal effect and primarily serves to highlight pedestrian right-of-way during the next scheduled traffic light change.
  • Midblock crossings, which are activated on demand by pedestrians and not associated with intersections, are mentioned, with one participant noting their increasing prevalence in certain areas.
  • Another participant clarifies that in the UK, "pelican crossings" have a unique light sequence that includes a flashing amber light, indicating to drivers to yield to pedestrians.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with pelican crossings, leading to some confusion about terminology and functionality. There is no consensus on the specific mechanisms involved, and multiple perspectives on pedestrian crossing systems exist.

Contextual Notes

Differences in terminology and functionality between regions (UK vs. Canada) are highlighted, indicating that assumptions about pedestrian crossings may vary significantly based on location.

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can anyone tell me how a pelican crossing works? I've found loads on web about how traffic lights in generalbut I am interested in how the green man is generated one the pedestrian presses the button. is it a capacitor?

thanks :)
 
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They run on mains power.
The button starts a cycle of turning on the amber, then red lights for the drivers and the green light for pedestrians. You could do it with a simple 555timer and a counter but I suspect for reliability and to allow more complicated schemes, eg shorter delays at busier times, you would use a microcontroller.
 
What the hell is a 'pelican crossing'? :confused:
Is this another instance of Florida weirdness?
 
Danger said:
What the hell is a 'pelican crossing'? :confused:
Is this another instance of Florida weirdness?
It's the standard name in the UK for pedestrian-controlled traffic signals.

Pelican crossing.
 
Thanks for the clarification, Dr. Greg. That's some mighty weird terminology.
Here in Canada, a pedestrian crosswalk with a button has minimal effect. It causes the 'walk' light to illuminate upon the next normally scheduled switch of the main traffic lights. That points out to drivers the pedestrian right-of-way, which in normal traffic affects only someone turning onto the street in question (since someone already on that street is held up by the main lights). That right-of-way exists at all times, whether or not the intersection is lighted or even marked, but the light makes it more noteworthy.
 
There are also midblock crossings that aren't associated with intersections, and are activated on demand by pedestrians.
 
jtbell said:
There are also midblock crossings that aren't associated with intersections, and are activated on demand by pedestrians.

True. That's a relatively new development in my area. There are none in my town, but Calgary has quite a few.
 
jtbell said:
There are also midblock crossings that aren't associated with intersections, and are activated on demand by pedestrians.
To clarify, that is what we call a "pelican crossing" in the UK. We have lots of them (usually in places a considerable distance from a light-controlled intersection). The lights at an intersection are just called "traffic lights" regardless of whether there's a pedestrian button or not.

One of the reasons "pelicans" have a special name is because the sequence of lights that the driver sees is slightly different: between red & green there is a flashing amber which means "give way to pedestrians, but otherwise, go".
 
I guess that I won't be renting a car if I ever visit England. Staying on the wrong side of the road would take all of my concentration, never mind trying to learn your signal system. :rolleyes:
 

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