Kinematics - How fast must torpedo go

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The problem involves kinematics, specifically the motion of a ship and a torpedo from a submarine. The scenario describes a ship moving at a specific velocity and direction, while a submarine is positioned at a distance south of the ship, aiming to strike it with a torpedo. The challenge is to determine the necessary speed of the torpedo for it to successfully intercept the ship.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the velocities of the ship and the torpedo, questioning how the westerly components of their motions relate. Some express uncertainty about the submarine's velocity and its relevance to the problem. Others suggest that the torpedo's speed must be calculated based on the ship's movement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the velocities, particularly focusing on the westerly components. However, there is no explicit consensus on the solution or the necessary calculations.

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Participants note the unrealistic aspects of the problem and the lack of an answer section in the textbook being referenced. There is also mention of a hint from the textbook regarding the westerly displacements, which is considered significant for solving the problem.

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Here is a problem I need help with it :

A ship is steaming 45 S of W at 30 km/h. At that moment 50 km due south of it, an enemy submarine heading 30 W of N, spots it. At what speed must a torpedo from the sub travel if it's to strike the ship ? Assume that the sub fires straight ahead from its forward tubes, and overlook the fact that this problem is a bit unrealistic.

I drew a diagram and labeled it but unfortunately couldn't go any farther :redface:
Thanks
 
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hey of the top of my head I am guessing something like 42.3... something kms/hr.
tell me if its right. Ill wait for u too clarify,what u mean by at what speed should the torpedo be fired? Arent those things self-propelled. I'm guessing the water ressistance will slow it down considerably.
 
What I wrote, is exactly what is written on my textbook except this hint :
What can be said about both westerly displacements.
And unfortunately there is no answer section for the book I am reading. So please let me know a bit about what you have done to achive the answer.
Thanks
 
Omid said:
What I wrote, is exactly what is written on my textbook except this hint :
What can be said about both westerly displacements.
That hint is the key. In order for the torpedo to intercept the ship, they must be at the same place at the same time. What does that tell you about the westerly component of their velocities?
 
But we know nothing about the submarine's velocity magnitude ! Is it still or moving ?
 
The submarines velocity is irrelevant. As soon as the torpedo leaves the submarine it has its own velocity: speed "v" at angle 30 degrees W of N.

Doc Al's point is that, since the torpedo's original position is exactly south of the ship (no distance east or west) the torpedo's westerly component, v sin(30), must be the same as the westerly component of the ship, (30)cos(45). Set those equal and solve for v.
 
Thank you very much.
 

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