Solving Quadratic and Trigonometric Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving two mathematical problems: one involving a quadratic inequality and the other a trigonometric equation. The first problem asks for solutions to the inequality \(5 > x^2 \geq -9\) for real numbers, while the second problem involves solving the equation \(\cos(x+30) - \sin(2x) = 0\) within the interval \(0 \leq x \leq 45\).

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Main Points Raised

  • Participant abc poses two questions regarding a quadratic inequality and a trigonometric equation.
  • Participant marlon suggests a method to solve the trigonometric equation by equating \(\cos(x+30)\) to \(\sin(2x)\) and deriving equations from that.
  • Participant Muzza asserts that the inequality \(x^2 \geq -9\) is always true for real numbers, while marlon initially claims it is not possible, leading to confusion.
  • Participant Muzza clarifies that \(x^2\) is always non-negative, thus making \(x^2 \geq -9\) valid for all real numbers.
  • Participant marlon acknowledges the correction regarding the interpretation of the inequality and agrees with the clarification provided by Muzza.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the inequality \(x^2 \geq -9\). Some participants argue it is always true for real numbers, while marlon initially contests this but later acknowledges the correction.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of precise language in mathematical statements, as initial misinterpretations led to a debate over the validity of the inequality. The context of complex numbers is also briefly mentioned but not explored in depth.

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2 questions ...

1- solve :

5 > x^2 >= -9
: x belongs to R
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2- solve :

cos (x+30) - sin (2x) = 0
45 >= x >= 0

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thanx
regards
abc
 
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cos(x+30) = sin(2x) = cos (90-2x)

this means : x+30 = 90-2x and x+30 = -90+2x

Then solve to x and you are done...
marlon
 
x^2 >= -9 for a real number : this is not possible. You only have 5>x^2>=0. The solution : x < sqrt(5 ) and x>-sqrt(5)
 
x^2 >= -9 for a real number : this is not possible.

Huh? It's true for any real number x.
 
Muzza said:
Huh? It's true for any real number x.


hallo Huh?

I meant that x^2 is always bigger or equal to zero, when x is considered to be a real number. This does not apply for complex numbers though...

regards
marlon
 
marlon: you originally said "x^2 >= -9 for a real number : this is not possible." Muzza's point was that it certainly is possible.

You then noted "I meant that x^2 is always bigger or equal to zero".

Yes: x^2>= 0 which is itself larger than -9. x^2>= -9 for all real numbers x.

If you had said "that's always true" rather than "that's impossible" you would have been right: the solutions to 5>x^2>= -9 is exactly the set of numbers whose square is less than 5.
 
Thank you HallsofIvy ;)
 
HallsofIvy said:
marlon: you originally said "x^2 >= -9 for a real number : this is not possible." Muzza's point was that it certainly is possible.

You then noted "I meant that x^2 is always bigger or equal to zero".

Yes: x^2>= 0 which is itself larger than -9. x^2>= -9 for all real numbers x.

If you had said "that's always true" rather than "that's impossible" you would have been right: the solutions to 5>x^2>= -9 is exactly the set of numbers whose square is less than 5.


OK I STAND CORRECTED

regards
marlon
 

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