What Is the Optimal Angle to Pull a Rope for Maximum Block Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around determining the optimal angle to pull a rope attached to a block resting on a horizontal surface to maximize the block's acceleration. Participants explore the influence of the coefficient of kinetic friction on this angle, considering various scenarios and assumptions related to friction and force components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the angle should be 90 degrees if the coefficient of kinetic friction (k) is greater than 1, and 0 degrees if k is less than 1, with no preference for angles at k = 1.
  • Another participant derives a formula for acceleration based on the angle and friction, concluding that the optimal angle for maximum acceleration is θ_m = arctan(μ), indicating that higher friction leads to a higher optimal angle.
  • A participant mentions that typical coefficients of friction range between 0 and 1, with a rough surface potentially having a coefficient of 1, which influences the force required to move a block.
  • One participant references Galileo's conclusions, agreeing that the angle equals arctan(μ) and providing reasoning for angles at different coefficients of friction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal angle based on the coefficient of kinetic friction, with some supporting the arctan(μ) relationship while others propose different angles based on their interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive optimal angle across all scenarios.

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Participants rely on assumptions about the block being a pointlike particle and the effects of friction without fully resolving the implications of these assumptions on the overall analysis.

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A block rests on a horizontal surface with a rope attached. Assume the block is a pointlike particle in order that any moments on the box can be neglected. If kinetic friction opposes the motion of the block as it is dragged by a tensile force induced on the block by the rope, then what angle above the horizontal should the rope be pulled if the acceleration of the box is to be maximized for any given mass and tension? Hint: the solution is quite a simple answer
 
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Hoo boy. I thought I did well in physics but I question for the first time how I pulled off doing well ever, oops. No matter what the mass is, the tension must be greater than the original static friction, then we also know that the tension in the rope must be greater than the kinetic friction. Now my memory is getting fuzzy. Ok so here's my final answer then I guess in my stupor having just woken up from a nap: If k > 1, the angle should be 90 degrees, if k < 1, it should be 0 degrees. If k = 1, it doesn't really matter perpendicular or parallel. Any other angle I can only see it maximize the friction + gravity components. Oh and k is the coefficient of kinetic friction. I remember seeing in a book there was some substance with a coefficient of like 1.2 but feel free to correct me, I really am drawing a blank and my grasp of physics on fundamental levels like this is laughable.
 
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The horizontal component of the net force is:
[tex]F\cos\theta - F_r[/tex]
Where [itex]F_r[/itex] is the frictional force.

[tex]F_r=\mu N[/tex]
Where N is the (magnitude of the) normal force.
[tex]N=mg-F\sin\theta[/tex]

Therefore:

[tex]F\cos\theta-\mu(mg-F\sin\theta)=ma[/tex]

Which gives for the acceleration:

[tex]a=\frac{F}{m}(\cos\theta+\mu\sin\theta)-\mu g[/tex]

You can work out the angle [itex]\theta_m[/itex] for which this is a maximum and you'll find:

[tex]\theta_m=\arctan(\mu)[/tex]

It seems the answer is dependent on the coefficient of friction alone.
If there is a lot of friction, the angle higher. If there is no friction you should pull horizontally.

So if you want to drag along a heavy object by a rope, you should first
pull more or less vertically (high angle) to overcome the static friction, then
when it moves you should pull more horizontally.
I don't know what a typical coefficient of friction is (for stone for example),
but it may yield some practical information for when you're moving out of the house :smile: .
 
typically coefficients of friction lie between 0 and 1, a very very rough surface would have a coefficient of friction of 1, if the coefficient was one, then in order to push a 100kg block on the ground you would need to exert a force of 9800 N
 
Galileo is correct with his answer (isn't he always correct...i mean...about moons and Jupiter...acceleration on Earth independent of mass...except maybe for his non-relativistic work on motion for frame of references). Anyways, the answer to the problem is that the angle = arctan u. If the coeficient were 0, then the angle would be 0, which makes sense. If the coefficient were 1, then the angle would be 45 degress, which also makes sense.
 

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