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Petar Mali
Apr3-10, 09:05 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Show that the reciprocal cubic of cubic lattice is also cubic.


2. Relevant equations
cos\alpha*=\frac{cos\beta cos\gamma-cos\alpha}{sin\beta sin\gamma}

cos\beta*=\frac{cos\alpha cos\gamma-cos\beta}{sin\alpha sin\gamma}

cos\gamma*=\frac{cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma}{sin\alpha sin\beta}

\vec{a*}=\frac{\vec{b}\times\vec{c}}{V}

\vec{b*}=\frac{\vec{c}\times\vec{a}}{V}

\vec{c*}=\frac{\vec{a}\times\vec{b}}{V}





3. The attempt at a solution
If I use this formula I will show that \alpha*=\beta*=\gamma*=90^{\circ}

and a*=b*=c*=\frac{1}{a}

and so reciprocal lattice of cubic lattice is cubic. Q.E.D.

But I don't know from where I get this angle relations

cos\alpha*=\frac{cos\beta cos\gamma-cos\alpha}{sin\beta sin\gamma}

cos\beta*=\frac{cos\alpha cos\gamma-cos\beta}{sin\alpha sin\gamma}

cos\gamma*=\frac{cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma}{sin\alpha sin\beta}

nickjer
Apr3-10, 12:08 PM
Just take the dot products between the reciprocal lattice vectors. If they are 0, then you know the angle between them must be 90 degrees. And they will come out to be 0 if you do the math right.

Petar Mali
Apr3-10, 12:49 PM
Just take the dot products between the reciprocal lattice vectors. If they are 0, then you know the angle between them must be 90 degrees. And they will come out to be 0 if you do the math right.

Did you read my question?

Do you know from where I can get this expression for angles?

I'm not sure how do you mean to get zero if this is for example some loxogonal system in reciprocal lattice?

This way is I think unique. Because of that I'm interesting in this angle relations.

nickjer
Apr3-10, 12:59 PM
If you want to solve for those expressions, then you would do it the same way as I just described. Take the dot products of the reciprocal lattice vectors, then wade through all the trigonometry until you get the final solution. It will get messy, but you can get the same expressions.

nickjer
Apr3-10, 02:36 PM
Your first equation is wrong. Use the identity:

(\vec{a}\times \vec{b})\cdot(\vec{c} \times \vec{d}) = (\vec{a}\cdot \vec{c})(\vec{b}\cdot \vec{d}) - (\vec{a}\cdot \vec{d})(\vec{b}\cdot \vec{c})

Also, set the angles between your a and b to alpha, b and c to beta, and a & c to gamma. That way things won't get too confusing.

nickjer
Apr3-10, 02:47 PM
You will get the exact same identity I gave you using the vector identity you just listed, but you will have to go through more work since yours isn't fully expanded.

Petar Mali
Apr3-10, 03:12 PM
You will get the exact same identity I gave you using the vector identity you just listed, but you will have to go through more work since yours isn't fully expanded.

\vec{a^*}\cdot{\vec{b^*}=\frac{1}{V^2}[(\vec{b}\times\vec{c})\cdot(\vec{c}\times\vec{a})]=\frac{1}{V^2}[(\vec{b}\cdot \vec{c})(\vec{c}\cdot\vec{a})-(\vec{b}\cdot \vec{a})(\vec{c}\cdot\vec{c})]=\frac{1}{V^2}[bccos\alpha accos\beta-abcos\gamma c^2]

a^*b^*cos\gamma^*=\frac{abc^2}{V^2}(cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma)

cos\gamma^*=\frac{abc^2}{a^*b^*V^2}(cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma)

I use different because I want to get solutions in same form. So angle between the a and b is gamma.

I'm pretty tired. I don't see how to get \frac{abc^2}{a^*b^*V^2}=\frac{1}{sin\beta sin\alpha}

nickjer
Apr3-10, 04:01 PM
|a*| = |a x b|/V = a b sin(alpha)/V

Was too lazy to put it in tex, but you get the point.

Petar Mali
Apr3-10, 04:32 PM
Of course! :)


\vec{a*}=\frac{\vec{b}\times\vec{c}}{V}



\vec{b*}=\frac{\vec{c}\times\vec{a}}{V}


From that

a^*=\frac{|\vec{b}\times\vec{c}|}{V}=\frac{bcsin\a lpha}{V}



b*=\frac{|\vec{c}\times\vec{a}|}{V}=\frac{acsin\be ta}{V}



cos\gamma^*=\frac{abc^2}{a^*b^*V^2}(cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma)



cos\gamma^*=\frac{abc^2}{\frac{bcsin\alpha}{V}\fra c{acsin\beta}{V} V^2}(cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma)



cos\gamma*=\frac{cos\alpha cos\beta-cos\gamma}{sin\alpha sin\beta}


Thanks!