Positive Hydrogen Ion = Proton?

[FeDeX_LaTeX]

Hello;

Is this statement true? A hydrogen positive ion would have no electrons, and pure hydrogen itself has no neutrons. Therefore, would it simply be a proton?

Thanks.

[mathman]

Yes. Small complication - in water the proton is often attached to a water molecule, rather than by itself.

[bp_psy]

Yes. When talking about Bronsted acids and bases one talks about proton donors and proton acceptors..

[Borek]

Yes. Small complication - in water the proton is often attached to a water molecule, rather than by itself.

Note that this "attachement" is reatively weak. Protons are "jumping" between water molecules all the time. When compared with other compounds water molecules are "short living" - for example is you mix equimolar amounts of heavy water with normal water after few minutes you will have mixture containing H2O, HDO and D2O in 1:2:1 ratio.

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[Superstring]

Yes, as long as the atom isn't deuterium or tritium.

[mathman]

Note that this "attachement" is reatively weak. Protons are "jumping" between water molecules all the time. When compared with other compounds water molecules are "short living" - for example is you mix equimolar amounts of heavy water with normal water after few minutes you will have mixture containing H2O, HDO and D2O in 1:2:1 ratio.

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What I meant by attach is to form H3O+

[Borek]

I know, and you are right - but it doesn't change the general picture. All protons in H3O+ are equivalent, so they all can move between water molecules. That is assuming H3O+ exists, as larger conglomerates has been suggested (and observed) as well.

Water is very dynamic, in a way much more than other liquids, as it is not just a matter of separate molecules bouncing each other, but also exchange of protons.

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