What is the Explanation for a Horizontal Asymptote Always Being Above the Curve?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of horizontal asymptotes in calculus, specifically examining the function y = (x^2 - 1) / (x^2 + 1) and the claim that the curve is always above the horizontal asymptote y = 1. Participants are exploring the implications of this claim and questioning the accuracy of a textbook description.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the limit of the function as x approaches infinity and concludes that the horizontal asymptote is y = 1.
  • The same participant expresses confusion about the book's claim that the curve is always above the asymptote, suggesting that substituting values shows the function is actually below the asymptote.
  • Several participants agree that the textbook is incorrect in its description of the asymptotic behavior.
  • One participant humorously speculates that a printing error may have caused the confusion in the book's illustrations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the textbook's explanation is incorrect, but there is no consensus on the reasons behind this or the implications of the asymptotic behavior.

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Participants do not provide specific details on the assumptions or definitions that may affect their interpretations of horizontal asymptotes.

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Well I'm going through an introductory calculus book and right now I'm on the section of horizontal asymptotes.

Currently I'm stubbed on this:
y = (x^2 - 1) / (x^2 + 1)

I take the limit of the function as x increases or decreases without bound and come up with y = 1 being the horizontal asymptote. No problem so far.

However, the book sketches it so that the curve is always above the asymptote for both + and - infinite.

The only problem is that if you substitute values for both sides, won't it ALWAYS be under the asymptote (since its a fraction less than one)? There will always be a value of 2 more on the denominator than the numerator.

So, am I right and the book wrong or what is what ;)
 
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Yeah, seems like the book is wrong.
 
singleton,

i am also convinced your book is wrong


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marlon
 
The book is wrong. What a strange book. Can you tell us what book it is?
 
e(ho0n3 said:
The book is wrong. What a strange book. Can you tell us what book it is?

Calculus (MCA-OAF) by the education ministry of Ontario ;)
 
A math book written by an education ministry? That explains it!

(Probably, the picture got flipped at the printers.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
A math book written by an education ministry? That explains it!

(Probably, the picture got flipped at the printers.)

It isn't just the picture ;) It describes it the same way heh.
 

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