What is the difference between Kinetic energy and momentum of a moving body?

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The discussion centers around the differences between kinetic energy and momentum of a moving body, exploring both conceptual and mathematical definitions. Participants seek to clarify how these two quantities relate to motion and their distinct characteristics in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that momentum is defined as the "quantity of motion," while kinetic energy is described as the "energy of motion," leading to confusion about their differences.
  • It is suggested that examining the mathematical definitions reveals key differences, with momentum being a vector (units of ML/T) and kinetic energy being a scalar (units of ML²/T²).
  • One participant emphasizes that kinetic energy can be transformed into other forms of energy, whereas momentum cannot, indicating that momentum is conserved in isolated systems while kinetic energy may not be.
  • Another point raised is that momentum has directional components and can be subjected to vector operations, while energy is a positive scalar without components.
  • A specific example involving a spherical shell of charge is provided to illustrate the relationship between momentum and energy in electromagnetic fields, highlighting their distinct units and characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conceptual understanding of kinetic energy and momentum, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation or interpretation of their differences.

Contextual Notes

Some participants seek a more visual or conceptual understanding of the differences, indicating that mathematical definitions alone may not suffice for all readers. Additionally, the discussion touches on the complexities of energy conservation in various contexts, including relativistic considerations.

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Hi everybody! I was thinking about the difference between Kinetic energy and momentum of a body. According to Newton; Momentum is the quantity of motion i.e. momentum is the measure of motion. And Kinetic energy is the energy of motion of a moving body...Now i am confused; The above two definations of momentum and kinetic energy seems to say same thing. Then what is the difference between Kinetic energy and momentum of a moving body? Please can anybody explain me...
 
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It's best to look at the "mathematical" definitions of momentum and kinetic energy to see the difference. And btw, the "quantity of motion" is definitely not the same thing as the "energy of motion".
 
The biggest difference is that momentum is a vector with units of ML/T and kinetic energy is a scalar with units of ML²/T².
 
radou said:
It's best to look at the "mathematical" definitions of momentum and kinetic energy to see the difference. And btw, the "quantity of motion" is definitely not the same thing as the "energy of motion".

Its very easy to understand the difference if we look at mathematical equations. But what i want here is the way to visulaize them in a conceptual way..
 
In short, kinetic energy may be transformed into some other type of energy (electrical, potential...).
Momentum can't be transformed in anything else.

This means that an isolated system always conserves momentum (if you plot momentum versus time it will be a constant), but may or may not conserve kinetic energy (the plot kinetic energy versus time can be anything (of course, always a non-negative value, but besides that, there's no other restriction)).

I'm NOT saying energy isn't conserved. If you plot TOTAL energy (kinetic + potential + whatever other type of energy) of an isolated system, it will always be a constant, if you neglect any relativistic stuff (in which energy may be converted to mass and vice-versa, but if you include it in the "whatever" part, you get your energy conservation back).

Another important diff: momentum is a vector. It has x, y, z components, may be coordinate transformed, you may do vector products with it. Energy is a positive scalar, no components.

The time derivative of momentum is Force (Force is always a vector). The time derivative of energy will give you the power of a system (power is always a scalar).
 
gdpudasaini said:
what is the difference between Kinetic energy and momentum of a moving body?

Momentum, like energy, has many forms in nature. As for the difference between the two, a specific example may be instructive. A spherical shell of charge, which has always moved at a constant, low (<<c) speed, has an electromagnetic field characterized by both momentum and energy densities. If the momentum density is integrated over all of space, one obtains a vector result that equals a constant (the shell's "electromagnetic mass") times the shell's velocity. If the magnetic field energy is integrated over all of space, one obtains a scalar result equal to the electromagnetic mass times v*v/2. The field momentum equals part of the force, required to accelerate the charge from rest, multiplied by the time the force acts. (The other part is found in a radiation field). The energy (in the magnetic field) equals part of the force, required to accelerate the charge from rest, multiplied by the distance through which the force acts. These two quantities, while related, have their own particular units and are distinct for this reason, plus the fact that the momentum is a vector quantity, whereas the energy is a scalar. The unit of energy is the joule. It's high time someone gave the unit of momentum a name.
 

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