Two spheres collide and assume that the collision is perfectly elastic

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the relationship for perfectly elastic collisions between two spheres, specifically focusing on the equation (va' - vb') dot N = -(va - vb) dot N. The participants clarify that in elastic collisions, both kinetic energy and momentum are conserved, leading to the conclusion that the velocities after the collision are related by the negative of their initial velocities. The solution was simplified by analyzing the problem in the center of mass frame, which proved to be an effective approach for understanding the dynamics involved.

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Two spheres collide and assume that the collision is perfectly elastic. Also --only linear momentum.

I have the relationship:

(va' - vb') dot N = -(va - vb) dot N

Where N is the normal vector at the point of collision. va and vb are initial velocities of object A and B, respectively. And va' and vb' are the final velocities of object A and B respectively.

I want to know how this relationship is derived.

This is what I try:

Relative to object B, object A has velocity v_ab. Relative to object B,
object B has velocity 0.

m_a*v_a + m_b*v_b = m_a*v_a' + m_b*v_b'

Relative to B:

m_a*v_ab + 0= m_a*v_ab' + 0

v_ab = v_ab'

That would give me this: (va' - vb') dot N = (va - vb) dot N

But I am missing the negative sign, because they should be opposite. Please
advise. Thanks in advance.
 
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As I'm sure you're aware, in an elastic collision, both kinetic energy and momentum are conserved. If you write both sets of equations and solve them simultaneously, you'll get (va' - vb') = - (va - vb)
 
Yeah (needed KE), I've solved it now. I solved it in the center of mass frame, which seemed easier.
 

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