Trying to Make a (p[slash])^2 operator - is this right?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation and manipulation of Feynman slash notation, specifically the expression p[slash]p[slash]. Participants are exploring the implications of this notation in the context of matrix multiplication and the properties of gamma matrices.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to expand the expression p[slash]p[slash] and are discussing the symmetry properties of the resulting terms. Questions are raised about the implications of symmetry in the context of derivatives and gamma matrices.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the meaning of symmetry in the context of the expression and its relation to the properties of the gamma matrices. Some participants are providing insights into the necessary equations and properties that need to be considered, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the original attempt.

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There are indications of formatting issues with LaTeX in the initial posts, which may have affected the clarity of the mathematical expressions being discussed. Additionally, the discussion hints at the need for further relevant equations that govern the behavior of the gamma matrices.

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Homework Statement



Find out what p[slash]p[slash] is (Feynman slash-notation), because Maple doesn't like it when you feed it p[slash]p[slash], and let it uber-"FOIL" out the (four non-commuting terms) x (four non-commuting terms), where the "x" denotes plain Jane matrix-multiplication.

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[tex]\begin{array}{c}<br /> [{\partial _\mu },{\gamma _\nu }] \equiv 0 \\ <br /> {\gamma _0}^2 = - {\gamma _i}^2 \equiv {\bf{I}} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

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[tex]\begin{array}{c}<br /> {p_{{\rm{slash}}}}{p_{{\rm{slash}}}} = - ({\gamma _\mu }{\partial ^\mu })({\gamma _\nu }{\partial ^\nu }) \\ <br /> = - \left( {{\gamma _0}{\partial ^0} - \vec \gamma \bullet \vec \partial } \right)\left( {{\gamma _0}{\partial ^0} - \vec \gamma \bullet \vec \partial } \right) \\ <br /> = - \left( {{\gamma _0}^2{{({\partial ^0})}^2} + (\vec \gamma \bullet \vec \gamma ){\nabla ^2} - 2({\gamma _0}{\partial ^0})(\vec \gamma \bullet \vec \partial )} \right) \\ <br /> {p_{{\rm{slash}}}}{p_{{\rm{slash}}}} = - \left( {({\bf{I}}){{({\partial ^0})}^2} + ( - 3{\bf{I}}){\nabla ^2} - 2({\gamma _0}{\partial ^0})(\vec \gamma \bullet \vec \partial )} \right) \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]
 
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sorry! LaTeX is bad.
 
bjnartowt said:
sorry! LaTeX is bad.

Um...writing text below the thread-start actually fixed the problem :-P
 
No, it is not right. To get the right answer, begin by noting that pslash^2 is symmetric in d^mu and d^nu.

There is one more relevant equation that the gammas satisfy that you need to solve this, as well.
 
chrispb said:
pslash^2 is symmetric in d^mu and d^nu.

Hi chrispb, thank you for stopping to help us answer this question.

May I ask: does "symmetric" mean pslash^2 is equal to its own transpose?
 
No, I just mean [tex]{\gamma _\mu }{\partial ^\mu }{\gamma _\nu }{\partial ^\nu }={\gamma _\mu }{\gamma _\nu }{\partial ^\mu }{\partial ^\nu }={\gamma _\mu }{\gamma _\nu }{\partial ^\nu }{\partial ^\mu }[/tex].

What this means is you can write [tex]{\partial ^\mu }{\partial ^\nu }=\frac{1}{2}({\partial ^\mu }{\partial ^\nu }+{\partial ^\nu }{\partial ^\mu })[/tex] free of charge.
 

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