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I have a string of N characters containing M(<N) words. Can you tell me how many way I can parenthize this string ? :shy:
So so :cool: COOL not kewl
K.J.Healey
Sep3-04, 10:26 AM
Sum(n-i,i,1,n-1)
I have a string of N characters containing M(<N) words. Can you tell me how many way I can parenthize this string ? :shy:
So so :cool: COOL not kewl
Do we use ordinary rules of pu(nctua)tion?
Parenth(eses are not allo)wed to break( up (words), or be) nested?
If one cannot break up words, then I think the number N of characters does not matter, only the number M of words matters.
It does seem to matter whether or not you want to allow nesting parens.
Sum(n-i,i,1,n-1)
hi Healey, I dont know this notation, can you give an example
or explain it simply?
If there were just 4 words, how would your formula work to give
the number of different ways to parenthesize?
K.J.Healey
Sep3-04, 10:59 AM
I assumed that you cannot parenthesize throughout words, like splitting them up. He states that there are M words, with M < N. So the maximum amount of words would be N-2 single characters, then a double character word. like a 4 letter max would be :
a b cd
in order to have M<N.
Then possible parentheticals are
(a) b cd
(a b) cd
(a b cd)
a (b) cd
a (b cd)
a b (cd)
cause you cant split "cd"
Then you see its just what i wrote as a sum
for the starting parenthesis in front of a you have m possibilities, which is n-1 possibilities.
For the parenthesis in front of "b' you have 2, or m-1 possibilities, or n-2 possibilities.
I guesss SUM(m-i,i,0,m-1) would work too.
TenaliRaman
Sep3-04, 11:45 AM
is this allowed ?
(a) (b) (cd)
and this
a (b) (cd)
Also we may have
a bcd
can't we?
on healey's notation
sum(m-i,i,0,m-1)
means
sum over m-i
where i goes from 0 to m-1
K.J.Healey
Sep3-04, 12:30 PM
ahh, i forgot about multiple parenthesis. Theres a lot then. Im working on the formula right now.
PS:
Is there a mathematical operator "$"(ill call it arbitrarily) such that
6$ = 6+5+4+3+2+1+0 ?
sort of like 6! = 6*5*4.... but with addition? I hate writing out the sums everytime.
PPS : Oh, and im assuming he's looking for the maximum allowed given that you cant split words. So just ignore the character number. UNLESS (crazy hard) everytime you add a parenthesis it counts as a character, so you can have that many less characters in your string...
Oh and is this allowable?
(The (swift) red) (fox).
n + (n-1) + .... + 2 + 1 = \sum_{i=1}^n i = \frac{n^2 + n}{2}
I have a string of N characters containing M(<N) words. Can you tell me how many way I can parenthize this string ? :shy:
So so :cool: COOL not kewl
If parenthesis cant break up words, and if parenthesis cant be nested , then the answer is:
\#ways(M) = \left(\frac{5+\sqrt{5}}{10}\right) \left(\frac{3+\sqrt{5}} {2}\right)^M + \left(\frac{5-\sqrt{5}}{10}\right) \left(\frac{3-\sqrt{5}} {2}\right)^M -1
I'm not counting the 'no parenthesis at all' case. So, if M=1 then #ways=1, for instance .
But, of course you may remove the '- 1' at the end. :smile:
TenaliRaman
Sep6-04, 11:57 AM
Rogerio,
Brilliantè!!
Your formula seems to be agreeing with my calculations for a first few terms .... may/can i have a hint for the method u have taken?
-- AI
P.S : By the look of the formula, u seem to have got some recursive equation is it?
Wow, thanks TenaliRaman !
You are right, it was a 'recurrence' approach...:-)
A little bit more in white:
Consider all the combinations with the initial words: a b...f
When you add a new word, you get:
combinations with the new last word free (not enclosed in parentheses) :
thee old '...f' becomes '...f x'
combinations with the new the last word enclosed in parentheses and alone:
the old '...f' becomes '...f (x)'
combinations with the new last word enclosed in parentheses but not alone:
the old '...f)' becomes '...f x)'
Hmmm... is it enough ? :smile:
TenaliRaman
Sep7-04, 08:55 PM
But Ofcourse!
F(m) = 2*F(m-1)+ [\sum_{i=1}^{m-2} F(i)] .. *
F(m-1) = 2*F(m-2) + [\sum_{i=1}^{m-3} F(i)] .. **
Simplifying with * and **, we get
F(m) = 3*F(m-1) - F(m-2)
and the rest is ofcourse mechanical.
Good Job!
-- AI
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