Model Rocket Physics Problem: Maximum Height & Speed Calculations

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a model rocket problem involving kinematics, specifically focusing on its maximum height and speed calculations during its flight. The rocket experiences a constant upward acceleration before entering free fall after the engine stops.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the maximum height using average velocity but questions the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest alternative methods for calculating average velocity and maximum height, while others provide equations related to the rocket's motion after engine shutdown.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to calculate the maximum height and the speed of the rocket before it hits the ground. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic equations and the concept of energy conservation, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the calculations of average velocity and the effects of gravity after the engine stops. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the second part of the problem.

EaGlE
Messages
20
Reaction score
0
A model rocket has a constant upward acceleration of 40.0 m/s^2 while its engine is running. The rocket is fired vertically, and the engine runs for 2.50 s before it uses up the fuel. After the engine stops, the rocket is in free fall. The motion of the rocket is purely up and down. i have two questions.

1.) What is the maximum height that the rocket reaches?

ok first i tried to find the average velocity for the up trip. 40/1.25 = 32
and after i found 32, i did 32*2.50s = 80 which is the wrong answer.

2.) What will be the speed of the rocket just before it hits the ground?

and for #2, i don't know how to start it.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The average speed on the way up is [itex]40\times2.5/2[/itex].
 
For no 2, you use the maximum height that you've calculated in the equation v^2 = u^2 + 2as, using a = g. The initial velocity, u = 0 (obviously, as otherwise it wouldn't have reached the maximum height).
 
"ok first i tried to find the average velocity for the up trip. 40/1.25 = 32
and after i found 32, i did 32*2.50s = 80 which is the wrong answer."
Sinjce there is a constant acceleration, the velocity at the end of of the 2.5 seconds is 40*2.5= 100 m/s so the average velocity is 50 m/s (you multiplied by 2/t rather than t/2!). After 2.5 seconds, the rocket has a height of 2.5*50= 125 meters.

However, that is just the height when the engine shuts down. It has upward momentum so it continues upward.

After the engine shuts off, the only acceleration is that due to gravity, -9.8 m/s2. After t seconds, the speed will be 100- 9.8t (remember that the rocket's speed at engine shut off was 100 m/s). As long as that is positive, the rocket will continue going higher. When it is negative, the rocket will be coming down. The highest point is when the speed 100- 9.8t= 0. You can solve that for t to find how long the rocket continues to "coast" upward. Also, since the rocket's initial speed at engine shutdown was 100 m/s and at the end is 0, you know that the rocket's average speed during coasting was 50 m/s (again, constant acceleration). Multiply that by the time the rocket coasted upward to get the height gained during that time. Don't forget to add the 125 m to that to find the maximum height.

It's going to be a heck of a lot more than 80 m!

There are several ways to answer (2). One way would be to find the potential energy at the highest point (mgh) and set that equal to the kinetic energy of the rocket just as it hits the ground ((1/2)mv2). You don't know m but that's alright, they will cancel.

Another way is to imagine that rocket gained all of its speed instantaneously (like the "throw a rock upward" problem). If the rocket had speed v0 at the first instant, then its height at time t would be given by -(g/2)t2+ v0t. The time to the highest point would (until its speed is 0) would be given by -gt+ v0= 0 or
t= v0/g. Putting that into the height equation, the greatest height would be -(g/2)(v02/g2)+ v0(v0/g= v02/2g (looks a lot like the energy equation doesn't it?) Set that equal to the height you got before and solve for v0. That would be the "initial speed" but because the motion is symmetric, will also be the speed with which the rocket hits the earth.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
ah perfect, and i totally get what your saying. thanks for the help
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
2K