How Does Differentiability Define a Function's Behavior?

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The discussion centers on the implications of differentiability for a function's behavior, exploring both local and global characteristics. Participants examine how differentiability relates to continuity, the uniqueness of functions based on their derivatives, and the nuances of differentiability in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what differentiability at a point suggests about a function and expresses difficulty applying this concept to problems.
  • Another participant asserts that differentiability at a point is a local property and does not provide information about the function's global behavior.
  • A participant posits that differentiability at a point implies continuity at that point.
  • It is proposed that for "sufficiently nice" functions, knowing the derivatives of all orders at a point can determine the entire function within its domain.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous point, emphasizing that "sufficiently nice" refers to analytic functions.
  • A participant suggests that most functions encountered are analytic in most regions.
  • An example is provided of a family of functions that illustrates the local nature of differentiability, where the functions are almost everywhere differentiable but not at every rational number in their domain.
  • The same participant expresses uncertainty about the example, suggesting that continuity might replace differentiability in their argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of differentiability, particularly regarding its relationship to continuity and global behavior. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the nature of differentiability.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on the definitions of "sufficiently nice" and "analytic," which may not be universally agreed upon. The example presented raises questions about the conditions under which differentiability and continuity apply.

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What does the diffrentiability of a given function at some point suggest? What more can we find out about a function if we are given the diffrentiability or non-differentiability at some point?

I have some idea on it like the slopes of the tangents to the curve differ, there may be sudden dips & sharp turns..But I can't apply them in questions dealing with the concept of diffrentiability..

Can anyone help with this concept?
 
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Differentialbility at a point is purely a local datum, it tells you nothing about the global behaviour of the function.
 
Doesn't the differentiability of the function at a point tell you that it is continuous at that point?
 
More surprisingly. For sufficiently 'nice' functions, the derivatives of all orders at a given point determines the entire function in its domain.
 
Galileo said:
More surprisingly. For sufficiently 'nice' functions, the derivatives of all orders at a given point determines the entire function in its domain.

"sufficiently 'nice'" being defined as a function such that the derivatives of all orders at a given point determines the entire function!
(i.e. "analytic")
 
It's a fair description, though, because most of the functions most people could imagine are analytic 'most everywhere.
 
An example of a family of functions, defined on the strictly positive reals, that shows just how local differentiability is:

Let k be any real number, and let f(x,k) be zero if x is irrational and k/n if x is rational and x=m/n where m and n are coprime, then f(x,k) is almost everywhere differentiable with derivative 0, and as long as k is not zero, is not differentiable at every rational number in the domain.Thus each of (the infinitely many) fs has the same domain, the same subset of the domain on which it is differentiable,with the same derivative, and they are all distinct.


EDIT actually I'm having second thoughts about this function, but it the above is true with the word continuous inserted for the word differentiable, and I'm too tired to think about it.
 
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