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chroot
Sep8-04, 12:59 PM
What is this guy's problem?

He's widely believed to be the reason Bush even had a chance against Gore, since he steals far more of the democratic vote than the republican vote. I assume that Nader himself would have preferred to see Gore win. I assume Nader realizes that he has a snowball's chance in hell of actually winning.

So what is his problem? Why is he running again? Does he enjoy slanting elections against the candidate he'd presumably prefer to see win?

- Warren

Gza
Sep8-04, 01:30 PM
I think he is counting on the press he receives to advertise the green party. Either that or he's a closet Republican!

phatmonky
Sep8-04, 02:24 PM
:rofl so many excuses! Gore lost because Gore wasn't good enough. Nader isn't too blame. He, Bush, and Gore all went in knowing the rules. Just because Nader is a better alternative than Gore for some doesn't mean they would have voted Gore.
Had the democrats done something besides whine for the last 4 years ,they would be handing Bush his ***, EASILY, right now. Instead, you guys just sit around making excuses for the last time. You have to identify the REAL problem before you can fix it.

chroot
Sep8-04, 02:27 PM
The real problem is that we do not have run-off elections. IMO, elections with 3+ candidates are just too messy.

- Warren

russ_watters
Sep8-04, 03:51 PM
So what is his problem? Why is he running again? Does he enjoy slanting elections against the candidate he'd presumably prefer to see win? Aw, c'mon, that's an easy one. I'll give you a hint: it starts with an "e" and ends with a "go". The real problem is that we do not have run-off elections. IMO, elections with 3+ candidates are just too messy. I tend to agree, but I think this is a relatively new phenomena. Not a whole lot of 3rd party candidates get enough votes to matter, but then we had Perot and Nader.

Integral
Sep8-04, 03:59 PM
Channel surfing a few weeks back I caught a TV show (I believe it was Bill Maher's new one) with Bill and Michale Moore on their knees in front of Ralph begging for him not to run....they were dead serious.

chroot
Sep8-04, 04:05 PM
I'm considering trying to gather support to demonstrate in front of voting precincts in November, just reminding people that essentially a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.

- Warren

chroot
Sep8-04, 04:05 PM
Nader is apparently not on the ballot in a number of states.. I'm not sure what that means. How can a candidate still be in the running at all if only some Americans can vote for him?

- Warren

phatmonky
Sep8-04, 04:11 PM
Nader is apparently not on the ballot in a number of states.. I'm not sure what that means. How can a candidate still be in the running at all if only some Americans can vote for him?

- Warren

third party rules are slanted to keep them out of the national level Each state gets to handle their voting regulations, and many do anything they can to keep third parties off the ballot. It's stupid.

wasteofo2
Sep9-04, 07:35 PM
Nader's response to the "spoiler" criticism:
http://www.kintera.org/AccountTempFiles/Account9873/images/65643_spoiler_kit2.jpg
:rofl:
Gotta love him!

JohnDubYa
Sep9-04, 10:13 PM
chroot, Nader doesn't appear to be much of a bigger fan of Al Gore than George Bush. In fact, he stated once that we would have invaded Iraq no matter which one was President.

Dissident Dan
Sep9-04, 11:42 PM
chroot, Nader doesn't appear to be much of a bigger fan of Al Gore than George Bush. In fact, he stated once that we would have invaded Iraq no matter which one was President.

It seems that he's come down with dubya's black-and-white syndrome.

JohnDubYa
Sep9-04, 11:58 PM
Huh? Can you elaborate?