Energy Question - Burning off Breakfast

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to energy expenditure while walking, specifically focusing on how many steps are needed to burn off the energy from a breakfast consisting of Shredded Wheat & Bran. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the lack of starting variables and the appropriate equations to use.

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  • Participants explore various methods to estimate energy expenditure per step, including considerations of gravitational force and friction. Some suggest that empirical data may be necessary to determine energy burned per step, while others propose simplifying assumptions for calculations.

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The discussion includes attempts to derive an equation for calculating the distance required to burn off the breakfast energy. Some participants provide insights into the complexities of human energy expenditure, while others question the validity of assumptions made in the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the approach or the final outcome.

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Participants note the absence of specific variables and the complexities involved in calculating energy expenditure, particularly when considering factors like friction and the mechanics of human movement.

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Energy Question -- Burning off Breakfast

Im not to good at physics to begin with, and I've been having a lot of trouble with this question:
"How many steps does it take to wear off your breakfast?"
First of all this question doesn't give you any starting points with variables and such and I really have no clue what kind of equation to use.

I am using Shredded Wheat & Bran as my breakfast (30g per serving (160ml)) without milk and this contains 450kJ from the back of the box nutritional facts.
I assumed that each step would take approx. 1 meter in length and that the person burning off the breakfast weights 70kg. I don't know if this info is relavent to the question but I am kinda stuck.

I thought if I could figure out how many joules were burn each step by this person I could divide that by the total joules of breakfast and figure out how many steps it will take

I would think that W=Fd would be the starting equation but I don't have a variable with Newtons
 
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If you could figure out how many joules are expended in each step, certainly, you could figure it out. The problem is there is really no way to determine the amount of energy expended in each step except by experimenting.

When you walk on level ground, you're not doing any work against gravity. You're only doing work against friction -- the friction of your shoes against the pavement, the friction of your joints moving, the "friction" of your individual muscle fibers contracting and relaxing, and so on. The human body is an extremely complex machine, and it's just not possible to figure out how much energy a person expends in a step by using a simple formula.

I did a little Googling, and there seems to be a consensus that a 150-pound person walking at 3 mph burns about 4 kilocalories per minute. (A kilocalorie is the same as a Calorie you see on nutrition information.)

It looks like it takes about a mile and a half:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...e))+*+(3+miles+per+hour)+in+miles&btnG=Search

- Warren
 
You definitely need to approximate here, but I think you can solve this problem in another way. When you lift your body to the next step, assuming no friction of joints and the like, you must overcome the gravitational force acting on your body (which is known in this problem). In theory, the force you apply to the step must only be minutely larger than the gravitational force in order for you to move upward. So if you assume applied force equals gravitational force for each step and solve the problem that way, you would be making a decent approximation of the number of steps required to burn your breakfast in a frictionless environment and assuming your body only uses energy to move.
 
thank you for the replys, well it came down to deadline so I assume there was no friction what so ever and i ended up with something like this for a equation:

W= F*d
W= (9.81m/s^2*70)*d
Substituted joules from breakfast as work:
450kj=(9.81m/s^2*70)*d
(450kJ)/(9.81m/s^2*70)=d
d=655m <--going off memory could be wrong but that's the process i used... do you guys think this is right??
so 655 steps to wear off
 
If you walk along level ground, you have no net change in elevation, and thus there is no net work done against gravity.

The bottom line is that the number of Calories burned per step is not calculable from first principles, because the human body is much too complex.

- Warren
 

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