Help! Understanding Torque on a Door

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The discussion revolves around understanding torque in the context of a door and a doorstop. The original poster seeks to compare the torque exerted by a doorstop when a door crashes into it with the torque applied by a person to open the door.

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  • Participants explore the factors influencing torque, such as the position of the doorstop and the speed of the door's movement. Questions are raised about the forces applied and the distance from the hinges, which are critical in determining torque. There is also a discussion about the conceptual nature of the problem versus the mathematical formulation of torque.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the conceptual aspects of torque and its dependence on various factors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between torque and angular acceleration, though no consensus has been reached on the comparison of the two torques.

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Participants note that it has been some time since they last engaged with the concept of torque, indicating potential gaps in understanding. There is an emphasis on the conceptual nature of the problem rather than a focus on solving equations.

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undefinedundefined Hello, please help me answer this question using definitions, principles, and reasoning: How does the torque that a doorstop exert on a door (as the door crashes into it), coming to a stop suddenly, compare to the torque you exert on a door to start it opening? Is the doorstop torque larger, doorstop torque smaller, or are our torques the same?
 
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That depends on where you place the doorstop and on how fast you open or close the door! :-)
 
What forces are you applying to the door and what distance from the hinges? Those are the two things that determine torque.
 
jazjackson12 said:
How does the torque that a doorstop exert on a door (as the door crashes into it), coming to a stop suddenly, compare to the torque you exert on a door to start it opening? Is the doorstop torque larger, doorstop torque smaller, or are our torques the same?

It's been like half a semester since I did torque so excuse any errors :wink:

IIRC, one of the formulas dealing with torque was

[tex]M = I_c \alpha[/tex]

M is basically torque, alpha is acceleration, and Ic you can just ignore. Quicker angular acceleration means more torque.
 
Actually, it's more a conceptual problem and than actually having to solve the equation. ShawnD gives you the equation for determining torque, except alpha is angular acceleration to be more precise.

Angular acceleration is the rate that the angular velocity is increasing or decreasing. If your torque is constant, the longer you apply it, the greater your change in angular velocity. The shorter you apply it, the less your angular velocity changes.

In this problem, the change in angular velocity is constant. The amount of time it takes to change your angular velocity is not. Therefore, the amount of torque applied must be different, as well.
 

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