Solving a Challenging Calculus Math Problem - Can You Help?

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a circle that passes through three specified points: A (0,8), B (6,0), and C (0,0). The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on geometric properties of circles and the relationships between points in a coordinate system.

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  • Participants explore various methods to determine the center and radius of the circle, including using midpoints and the point-slope formula. Some participants question the validity of the initial points provided, while others share their own calculations and reasoning.

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Several participants have contributed different approaches to the problem, with some providing algebraic methods and others discussing geometric interpretations. There is an acknowledgment of different ways to arrive at the solution, but no explicit consensus has been reached on a single method.

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There are indications of initial confusion regarding the coordinates of point B, which prompted corrections and clarifications. The discussion reflects a learning environment where participants are encouraged to think critically about their assumptions and methods.

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My Calculus math teacher often likes to give us math problems that we have never encountered , for home work , before he actually starts teaching it. According to him it gets us 'thinking' analyticaly :confused: . Anyways here's the problem that's gotten me stomped :

Find the equation of the circle passing through the points A (0,8) , B (0,6) , and C (0,0).

Here's what I've figured so far , points A and B forms a chord. I found the mid point of A and B which is (3,4). Then using the point of slop formula , I obtain a line for the diamater of the circle which is y= 3/4 X + 2.25 . At this point I can't figure out what to do next to obtain the radius or the center of the circle. :rolleyes:

Some help please? :cry:
 
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Find the equation of the circle passing through the points A (0,8) , B (0,6) , and C (0,0).

Here's what I've figured so far , points A and B forms a chord. I found the mid point of A and B which is (3,4).

Some help please? :cry:

How can the midpoint of A and B be (3,4)? I think you made a typo for your question. There are no circles that can pass through (0,8), (0,6) and (0,0). :smile:
 
Oops! Sometimes I type too fast and make silly errors . It's suppose to be (6,0) for point B NOT (0,6). :-p
 
ok
i got
center of the circle at 3,4
with a radius of 5
 
It will all make 3,4,5 triangles in this fashion :)
 
Algerbra way--the way i did the first time... silly me

Here is the algerbra way of doing it
General Form for circle equation
[tex](x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2[/tex]

Here are the three versions of the equations

[tex]1. -x_0^2+(8-y_0)^2=r^2[/tex]
[tex]2. (6-x_o)^2 + -y_0)^2 = r^2[/tex]
[tex]3. -x_0^2+y_0^2=r^2[/tex]

multiply equation three by negitive one
then add it to equation two to get
[tex]12x_0=36[/tex]
therefore
[tex]x_0=3[/tex]

again use the equation three and multiply it by negitive one
then add it to equation one to get
[tex]64=16y_0[/tex]
therefore
[tex]y_0=4[/tex]

then
simply
9+16=25
squareroot of 25
equals 5
 
Clearly the three points are the vertices of a right triangle and, therefore, the hypotenuse is a diameter (twice the radius!) of the circle so the midpoint of the hypotenuse is the center of the circle. The desired equation follows immediately.
 
Ahhh thanks , but I've already solved it , well in a different way...

Using the point slope formula I got the equation for the diameter line Y=3/4X + 1 3/4. Then found the mid point between points AC and BC , then used point slop formula to get diameter line Y=4 for AC and X=3 for BC. I then simply prove that 3,4 is the center by setting y=4 and x=3 equal to y=3/4x +1 3/4 :

y=4,
4=3/4x + 1 3/4
-3/4x = 2.25
X = 3

x=3
y=3/4(3) + 1 3/4
y= 4

After that simply plug (3,4) and either point A , B , C back into the circle equation to get the radius.

Btw , how does the algebra way works? I don't understand it , does it involves something with triangles?
 

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