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tinfoilhat
Sep22-04, 08:59 PM
If S=[a,a) Can such a set exist? It implies that a is in S and not in S, which doesn't make sense, but it seems a problem I'm trying to do requires it to be considered empty.
The question is:
Let In = [an,bn) where
In+1 < In for all natural numbers n. [< denotes subset]
Give an example of those In for which the intersection of In (for all n) is empty.
I can't see any other way to construct an empty set.
(a, a] would be the set of all x such that a < x <= a.
However, I think the question intends you to limit yourself to intervals whose endpoints are distinct.
Recall that when you take a nested intersection of nonempty closed sets, you never get the empty set. Since you're searching for behavior that is not demonstrated by closed sets, I would suggest focusing at the open end of your intervals, where they resemble closed sets the least.
tinfoilhat
Sep22-04, 10:14 PM
Hi. Thanks for the response. Based on your definition [a,a) is indeed empty. Although I'm not sure why you think the question requires the endpoints to be distinct.
If every set In+1 is a subset of In, then the only way the intersection of In for all n is empty is if one of those sets is empty. To my eyes (which admittedly are stupid at times), the only set of the form [a,b) that is empty is when a=b (or b<a)
tinfoilhat
Sep22-04, 11:02 PM
I just learned that the set [a,a) is not a proper subset of itself. So if In=[a,a), In+1 can't satisfy In+1 < In.
Now I have no idea what's going on. If no In can be empty, how can the intersection of all In be empty in any case! HELP
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