View Full Version : Novel engine design
Kenneth Mann
Sep23-04, 05:51 PM
I decided to try my hand at initiating a discussion. In particular, I'm interested in what others think about the rather novel (Brayton Cycle) engine design at (www.starrotor.com) and its claims? It's, in principle, the same type of continuous burn engine as in jet aircraft, but with somewhat simpler design and less requirement for exotic materials. Note in particular, their efficiency claims. If it works as planned, it might be interesting.
KM
DaveC426913
Sep27-04, 03:04 PM
link rotted
Kenneth Mann
Sep27-04, 04:32 PM
The link works just fine!
KM
russ_watters
Sep27-04, 07:01 PM
Maybe its just for the prototype, but a 6:1 compression ratio means pretty low efficiency - worse than a regular car (otto cycle) engine. Regardless, they are still pretty early in the development. We'll need to wait and see. I'm definitely in favor of brayton cycle engines in cars if its feasible though.
Kenneth Mann
Oct1-04, 02:41 PM
Actually I think that you're applying the limitations of an Otto cycle to the Brayton cycle. Gas turbines and jet engines have low compression ratios but high volume flows.
KM
Kenneth Mann
Oct1-04, 02:42 PM
A higher compression ratio is still better.
KM
Interesting concept. I think it seems like it will eventually be quite feasible, if not soon. It would be cool to see this go into production. :cool:
Wesley Hughes
Oct27-09, 09:13 AM
It looks pretty good. But hot gas is corosive. Also heat make things expand, which would spoil close fit. Lots of leakage! They don't have a prototype running, which tells you how hard it is. Pistons with piston rings is hard to beat! Wes Hughes
J.ofalltrades
Nov10-09, 01:45 PM
Lets not forget the original rotor engine. Those are harder to beat, fewer moving parts = longer life. Plus better efficiency. Rotor engines have been in use for decades, the starrotor just looks like an American redesign. About time, too, sometimes we're pretty slow on the uptake.
xxChrisxx
Nov10-09, 02:06 PM
Deleted previous message: As i'm talking rubbish and thinking of something else altogeher.
Interesting idea, the efficiency claims aren't outside the realm of possibility either.
mgb_phys
Nov10-09, 02:58 PM
But hot gas is corosive. Also heat make things expand, which would spoil close fit. Lots of leakage!
Isn't a Brayton cycle isobaric?
The combustion chamber is open to the output turbine - there isn't anything to seal.
stewartcs
Nov10-09, 04:33 PM
FYI...this thread is like 5 years old...LOL!
CS
xxChrisxx
Nov10-09, 04:33 PM
Balls! Can't belive I didnt notice that.
Kenneth Mann
Nov10-09, 08:39 PM
Wow! Has it been that long. I feel old.
KM
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