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mym786
Nov19-10, 10:17 AM
How to prove that D = eE.

Use a general proof. I know how to prove it assuming a point charge.

Hootenanny
Nov19-10, 10:23 AM
How to prove that D = eE.

Use a general proof. I know how to prove it assuming a point charge.
I'm not sure what you mean by "prove". That is simply a definition: D=eE because we say so.

mym786
Nov19-10, 10:24 AM
How did we get this formula ?

Hootenanny
Nov19-10, 10:34 AM
How did we get this formula ?
As I said in my previous post, by definition. There really is nothing to prove. The electric displacement field is simply defined that way.

yungman
Nov19-10, 11:36 AM
Check out "Introduction to Electrodynamics" by Griffiths 3rd edition, page 175.

\epsilon_0 \nabla \cdot \vec E =\rho_v + \rho_{f} = \rho_v + \nabla \cdot \vec P

\epsilon_0 \nabla \cdot \vec E + \nabla \cdot \vec P = \rho_{f} \;\Rightarrow \; \nabla \cdot (\epsilon_0 \vec E + \vec P) = \rho_{f}

So we define:

\vec D = \epsilon_0 \vec E + \vec P \;\Rightarrow \; \nabla \cdot \vec D = \rho_{f}

For linear and isotropic material:

\vec P= \epsilon_0 \chi_e \vec E \;\Rightarrow \; \vec D = \epsilon_0(1+ \chi_e) \vec E

We define:

\epsilon_r = 1+ \chi_e \;\hbox { and } \epsilon = \epsilon_0 \epsilon_r \;\Rightarrow \vec D = \epsilon \vec E

dgOnPhys
Nov20-10, 03:29 AM
Hi yungman

I think you have a typo; your first line should go

\epsilon_0 \nabla \cdot \vec E =\rho_v + \rho_{f} = - \nabla \cdot \vec P + \rho_{f}

yungman
Nov20-10, 01:01 PM
Hi yungman

I think you have a typo; your first line should go

\epsilon_0 \nabla \cdot \vec E =\rho_v + \rho_{f} = - \nabla \cdot \vec P + \rho_{f}

Yes, sorry!!!