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aznluster
Dec20-10, 12:15 AM
Find \sqrt{1+\sqrt{1+2\sqrt{1+3\sqrt{1+...}}}}
QuantumJG
Dec20-10, 04:39 AM
It comes out to be 3. Why? I'm trying to find out.
QuantumJG
Dec20-10, 05:01 AM
Ok so this is basically one of Ramanajan's identities:
x + n + a = \sqrt{ax + (n+a)^{2} + x \sqrt{a(x +n) + (n+a)^{2} + (x + n) \sqrt{...}}}}
aznluster
Dec20-10, 11:14 PM
Wouldn't that add up to 2? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong. Is there a proof of that identity somewhere?
Dickfore
Dec20-10, 11:45 PM
Let
x_{n} = \sqrt{1 + n \sqrt{1 + (n +1) \sqrt{1 + \ldots}}}
Then, we have the backwards recursive formula:
x_{n} = \sqrt{1 + n x_{n + 1}}
We want to find x_{1}. Let us see what is the limit x \equiv \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}{x_{n}}?
If we want a finite limit, we must have:
x_{n} \sim -\frac{1}{n}, \; n \rightarrow \infty
but, this is impossible since all x_{n} > 0. Therefore, the limit is infinite. Let us assume that is asymptotically a power law:
x_{n} \sim A \, n^{\alpha}, \; n \rightarrow \infty, \; \alpha > 0
Then, we have:
A n^{\alpha} \sim \sqrt{1 + n A (n + 1)^{\alpha}} \sim \sqrt{A} \, n^{\frac{1 + \alpha}{2}}
which means:
\alpha = \frac{1 + \alpha}{2} \Rightarrow \alpha = 1
and
A = \sqrt{A} \Rightarrow A = 0 \vee A = 1
So, we may conclude:
x_{n} = n (1 + y_{n}), \; y_{n} \rightarrow 0, \; n \rightarrow \infty
The backwards recursive relation for y_{n} is:
n (1 + y_{n}) = \sqrt{1 + n \cdot n (1 + y_{n + 1})}
y_{n} = \sqrt{1 + y_{n + 1} + \frac{1}{n}} - 1
y_{n + 1} = y_{n} (2 + y_{n}) - \frac{1}{n}
Define a discrete z-transform:
Y(z) \equiv \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}{y_{n} z^{-n}}
As we can see, y_{1} is the coefficient in the Laurent series of Y(z) around z = 0. According to the residue theorem:
y_{1} = \mathrm{Res}(Y(z), z = 0) = \frac{1}{2 \pi i} \, \oint_{C_{z = 0}}{Y(z) \, dz}
We need to find a functional equation for Y(z) from the above (non-linear) recursive relation.
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