View Full Version : Could use a little advice here, with a 2nd order ODE
MaximumTaco
Oct4-04, 07:53 AM
xy'' -(2x+1)y' + (x+1)y = (x ex)2
I know a solution - (x-1)e2x
Thus, y= ((x-1)e2x u(x))
Now, i know how to do the whole reduction of order thing, but when i find y' and y'' and substitute, the u(x) term doesn't cancel out so this doesn't work
(x2-x)u'' + (2x2-x+1)u' + x2u = x2
So, how do i approach this? Thanks.
ReyChiquito
Oct4-04, 06:10 PM
You know that the solution can be written in the form y(x)=y_{p}(x)+y_{h}(x) where y_{p}(x) is the particular solution and y_{h}(x) is the solution to the homogeneous equation
xy_{h}''(x)-(2x+1)y_{h}'(x)+(x+1)y_{h}(x)=0.
You already know that y_{p}(x)=(x-1)e^{2x}.
For the homogeneous equation, there are two linearly independent solutions, one of them is clearly
y_{h_{1}}(x)=c_{1}e^{x}
and using the reduction of order, the other is
y_{h_{2}}(x)=c_{2}\frac{x^2}{2}e^{x}.
So the general solution to the ode is
y(x)=c_{1}e^{x}+c_{2}\frac{x^2}{2}e^{x}+(x-1)e^{2x}
If you need further justification, use frobenius method for the homogenous equation to calculate y_{h_{1}}(x), reduction of order for y_{h_{2}}(x), and variation of parameters for y_{p}(x). That way the problem is fully justified.
ps. i deleted my first post as it was wrong and confusing.
MaximumTaco
Oct4-04, 08:05 PM
I understand the first technique, but i'm not familiar with the Frobenius method, i looked it up on Mathworld and it looks really complex
With your other post, i can't quite follow how to get the second linearly independant solution. Thanks.
ReyChiquito
Oct5-04, 01:45 AM
Ignore the first post... is nonsence, thats why i deleted it.
Given y_{1}(x)=e^{x} using reduction of order to get the second solution
y_{2}(x)=v(x)e^{x}
implies that
y'_{2}(x)=[v'(x)+v(x)]e^{x}
y''_{2}(x)=[v''(x)+2v'(x)+v(x)]e^{x}
substituting in xy''_{2}(x)-(2x+1)y'_{2}(x)+(x+1)y_{2}(x)=0
we get that
xv''(x)-v'(x)=0
do i need to go further?
ps. Frobenius method is used only if you want to *construct* the first solution y_{1}=c_{1}e^{x}. Just so you know that it didnt came from divine inspiration, you dont need to use it though.
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