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Master J
Feb10-11, 05:28 PM
Ive run into some residue problems, I cant seem to find a clear answer anywhere on this...
I need to find the residue of exp[i.kx] / [ 1 - k^2 ], where k is my complex variable, and x is positive.
I have poles at 1 and -1 in my integral. Now everywhere I look, a pole of order n is when one has say, in my case, ( 1 - k^2)^n.....the n being outside the bracket. In what I have above, 1 - k^2, is this still of order 2???
Ive tried computing the residue but I cant get the correct answer, sin(x). My method is as follows:
multiply the above by (k - 1)^2, and then evaluate at k = 1, -1.....what am I doing wrong here?
I have poles at 1 and -1 in my integral. Now everywhere I look, a pole of order n is when one has say, in my case, ( 1 - k^2)^n.....the n being outside the bracket. In what I have above, 1 - k^2, is this still of order 2???
I think it's a first oder pole. To be honest I don't really remember everything that goes on with Laurent series, but I do remember a simple set of rules that allows you to find residues. Do you know these rules?
Well, 1 is a 0th order zero of:
p(k)= e^{ikx}
and a 1st order zero of
q(k)=1-k^2
Which means you have a 1st order pole and the residue at 1 is:
Res_1 = \frac{p(1)}{q'(1)} = \frac{-e^{ix}}{2}
The same reasoning should give you
Res_{-1} = \frac{p(-1)}{q'(-1)} = \frac{e^{-ix}}{2}
I hope I have used all the correct English terminology.
Ive tried computing the residue but I cant get the correct answer, sin(x).
Sin(x) is not "the residue", but rather the integral of your function divided by 2pi over any closed path in C containing both your singularities ( 1 and -1). It also is the sum of both your residues multiplies by i.
My method is as follows:
multiply the above by (k - 1)^2, and then evaluate at k = 1, -1.....what am I doing wrong here?
I dunno, you tell me. Multiply the above what by (k - 1)^2?
mathwonk
Feb11-11, 03:28 PM
If f is a function analytic and non zero at p, then the residue of f/(z-p) at p is sort of obviously the value of f at p. (divide a power series expanded at p by (z-p) and ask yourself what the coefficient is of (z-p)^-1.) so in your case, you have f/(z^2-1), where f has no zeroes at all. since (1-z^2) has simple zeroes at 1 and -1, the quotient has simple poles at those points. so if you have, at 1 say, the analytic function e^(ixz)/(-1-z), divided by (z-1), .....is that enough?
HallsofIvy
Feb12-11, 09:56 AM
Ive run into some residue problems, I cant seem to find a clear answer anywhere on this...
I need to find the residue of exp[i.kx] / [ 1 - k^2 ], where k is my complex variable, and x is positive.
I have poles at 1 and -1 in my integral. Now everywhere I look, a pole of order n is when one has say, in my case, ( 1 - k^2)^n
You didn't mean k^2 here did you? A pole of order n at k= a involves (a- k)^n in the denominator. At a= 1, that is (1- k) and at a= -1, (-1- k)^n= -(1+ k)^n if n is odd.
.....the n being outside the bracket. In what I have above, 1 - k^2, is this still of order 2???
The important point is that 1- k^2= (1- k)(1+ k) so that at k= 1, it is 1- k that is what you want to look at and at k= 1, 1+ k. Each has power 1.
Ive tried computing the residue but I cant get the correct answer, sin(x). My method is as follows:
multiply the above by (k - 1)^2, and then evaluate at k = 1, -1.....what am I doing wrong here?
Multiply by k- 1 and evaluate at k= 1, multiply by k+ 1 and evaluate at k= -1.
Hi all!
Just because,Master J, you mentioned you're using the residue thm in this case to evaluate an integral, here's an amusing question for you about an integral of a similar type:
First, x is still a non-negative number. We are interesting in the integral over all R of e^{ikx}k/(1+k^2), k being the integration variable. [NOTE: it's k/(1+k^2) instead of 1/(1-k^2)]. Now, obviously there are two 'loops' you can take to apply the residue thm, both surrounding a singularity at +/- i, respectively, with a semicircle (one in the upper, the other one in the lower half plane) and both close down by following the real axis. However, a simple computation of the residue shows they yield a different result for the integral.
So, what is the true value of the integral and why?
Remark: If you try viewing the integral as a Fourier transform of an L^1 function, the Riemann-Lebesgue lemma tells you that the transformed function has to be continuous and decaying at infinity, showing which 'loop' is the correct one! What's wrong with the other one?
PS: I myself had some headache two weeks ago while figuring out where the problem lies, but all in all, I found it helpful towards understanding
Redbelly98
Feb15-11, 09:24 AM
I think the problem, and solution, can be pretty well summarized as follows:
... multiply the above by (k - 1)^2, and then evaluate at k = 1, -1.....what am I doing wrong here?
Multiply by k- 1 and evaluate at k= 1, multiply by k+ 1 and evaluate at k= -1.
That will get you the residue at k=1, as well as the residue at k=-1.
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