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FarazAli
Oct15-04, 07:52 PM
The problem:
A mass m is attached to the end of a spring (constant k). The mass is given an initial displacement Xo from equilibrium, and an initial speed Vi. Ignoring friction and the mass of the spring, use energy methods to find (a) its maximum speed, and (b) its maximum stretch from equilibrium, in terms of the given quantities

The answer I got for part a:
v_{f} = \left(\frac{(kx_{0}^2 + mv_{i}^2)}{m}\right)^{1/2} = \left(\frac{kx_{o}^2}{m}\right)^{1/2} + v_{i}

- I set PE_{i} + KE_{i} = PE_{f} + KE_{f} and crossed out PE_{f} because max velocity occurs at zero potential

The answer I got for part b:
x = \left({\frac{mv_{i}^2}{k}}\right)^{1/2} = v_{i}\left(\frac{m}{k}\right)^{1/2}

- Again I used law of conservation of energy equation, and crossed KE_{f} and PE_{i} because the max stretch occurrs when PE_{f} is maximum, therefore KE_{f} = 0. The box's PE_{i} = 0 ( starting off from part a )

What I want to know is whether these answers are correct, as I have absolutely no other way, except for my own intillect, to find out.

Doc Al
Oct16-04, 08:30 AM
The answer I got for part a:
v_{f} = \left(\frac{(kx_{0}^2 + mv_{i}^2)}{m}\right)^{1/2} = \left(\frac{kx_{o}^2}{m}\right)^{1/2} + v_{i}
This part is correct:
v_{f} = \left(\frac{(kx_{0}^2 + mv_{i}^2)}{m}\right)^{1/2}
But that does not equal
\left(\frac{kx_{o}^2}{m}\right)^{1/2} + v_{i}
Realize that (a^2 + b^2)^{1/2} \ne a + b.

- I set PE_{i} + KE_{i} = PE_{f} + KE_{f} and crossed out PE_{f} because max velocity occurs at zero potential
The method is correct.

The answer I got for part b:
x = \left({\frac{mv_{i}^2}{k}}\right)^{1/2} = v_{i}\left(\frac{m}{k}\right)^{1/2}
This is incorrect. Your answer for b should be very similar to the answer for a, except that you solve for maximum X, instead of maximum V.

FarazAli
Oct16-04, 01:04 PM
silly mistake. Thanks.

So I redid the second part and got this:
\left(\frac{kx_{0}^2 + mv_{i}^2}{k}\right)^{1/2}

Doc Al
Oct16-04, 01:39 PM
Looks good to me.

FarazAli
Oct16-04, 03:05 PM
thanks for the help