How is Mechanical Energy Conserved in a Gravitational System?

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of mechanical energy in a gravitational system, specifically focusing on deriving the equation for gravitational potential energy and its relationship with kinetic energy. The scope includes theoretical derivations and equation proofs relevant to high school physics.

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  • One participant requests help with proving an energy-related equation, specifically mentioning gravitational potential energy.
  • Another participant offers a detailed derivation of the conservation of mechanical energy for a point particle under gravitational influence, utilizing Newton's second law and calculus.
  • The derivation includes steps involving dot products, integration, and the application of identities related to velocity.
  • Key insights from the derivation suggest that the total mechanical energy remains constant throughout the motion of the particle.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the gravitational force and the conditions under which mechanical energy is considered conserved. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved or agreed upon.

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I am in grade 12 physics, and i have to practice equation proofs. I am currently studying work, kinetic energy, springs, and potential energy (gravity and elastic).

Does anyone have a good proof?
 
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Proof of what?
Your question is much too vague..
 
Sorry, i mean proving an energy-related equation.
 
Which of them?
Specifics, please.
 
i know its a simple equation, but i suck at proofs.

how about the general equation for gravitational potential energy?
 
Ok, I'll derive the conservation of mechanical energy for you, in the case of a point particle under the influence of the force of gravity.
I write Newton's 2.law in vector form:
[tex]-mg\vec{j}=m\vec{a}[/tex]
where [tex]\vec{a}=\frac{d^{2}\vec{x}}{dt^{2}}[/tex] is the acceleration, and
[tex]\vec{x}(t)=x(t)\vec{i}+y(t)\vec{j}[/tex]
and the velocity is given by:
[tex]\vec{v}=\frac{d\vec{x}}{dt}[/tex]
We also have:
[tex]\vec{a}=\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}[/tex]
1. Form the dot product
between [tex]\vec{v}[/tex] and Newton's 2.law:
[tex]-mg\frac{dy}{dt}=m\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}\cdot\vec{v}[/tex]
2. Integrate this equation between 2 arbtriray points of time:
[tex]\int_{t_{0}}^{t_{1}}-mg\frac{dy}{dt}dt=\int_{t_{0}}^{t_{1}}m\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}\cdot\vec{v}dt[/tex]
3. The left-hand side is easy to compute:
[tex]\int_{t_{0}}^{t_{1}}-mg\frac{dy}{dt}dt=-mgy(t_{1})+mgy(t_{0})[/tex]
4. We note the identity:
[tex]\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}\cdot\vec{v}=\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\vec{v}^{2}}{2})[/tex]
where [tex]\vec{v}^{2}\equiv\vec{v}\cdot\vec{v}[/tex]
5. Hence, the right-hand side in 2.) may be computed:
[tex]\int_{t_{0}}^{t_{1}}m\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}\cdot\vec{v}dt=\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{1})-\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{0})[/tex]
6. Collecting insights from 3. and 5., 2. may be rewritten as:
[tex]-mgy(t_{1})+mgy(t_{0})=\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{1})-\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{0})[/tex]
7. Or, rearranging 6., we gain:
[tex]mgy(t_{1})+\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{1})=mgy(t_{0})+\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}(t_{0})[/tex]
8. Or, noting that [tex]t_{1},t_{0}[/tex] were ARBITRARY, every mechanical energy amount must remain the same at all times, so we get, by eliminating the specific time parameter:
[tex]mgy+\frac{m}{2}\vec{v}^{2}=K[/tex]
where K is some constant for the whole motion.
That is, the mechanical energy is conserved for the particle
 

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