My friend can't find her cat - I know what happened to it - It's not good

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The discussion revolves around the dilemma of whether to inform a friend about the death of her cat, which she believes has simply run away. Participants explore the emotional implications of revealing the truth versus allowing her to maintain her current belief.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that telling her the truth would alleviate her worry and allow her to grieve properly.
  • Others argue that revealing the cat's fate could cause her unnecessary distress, as she might imagine the suffering it endured.
  • A few participants express concern about the timing of the revelation, noting that if a significant amount of time has passed, the impact of the news may differ.
  • One participant mentions the emotional toll on the cat's caregivers, highlighting the sadness of their search for the cat.
  • Some participants propose that the friend may feel guilt if she learns the truth, while others believe she should be informed regardless of potential negative feelings.
  • There are references to a complicated situation involving a city worker who disposed of the cat, suggesting potential legal ramifications that could complicate the decision to tell her.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of honesty, while others question whether it is truly in the friend's best interest to know the truth.
  • Humor and light-hearted commentary emerge towards the end of the discussion, indicating a shift in tone as participants speculate about the potential outcomes of the conversation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the friend should be told about her cat's death. Multiple competing views remain regarding the emotional and ethical implications of revealing the truth.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of concern about the emotional impact on the friend and the potential legal issues surrounding the cat's death. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of personal feelings, moral considerations, and the implications of honesty.

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One of those predicaments.

My friend (she's in her early 20s) doesn't know where her cat is and she has assumed that it moved away, like cats sometimes do - seeking temporary adoption by some other cat-loving family. But I know that it was killed on the road and disposed of by city workers. So, do I tell her or not?
 
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I see no reason not to tell her.
 
I would tell her, rather then let her continue to worry.
 
How long have you known her cat was dead? That could come into play. If it died last month and you've been stewing this long about whether to tell her or not, she might not be very happy with you.

Four words to live by (at least for professional servers of legal papers, such as subpoenas, divorce papers, etc) - Don't kill the messenger!

Actually, this situation reminds me of those poor grade school kids in Ishinimaki that are still dutifully waiting for their parents to pick them up from school, even after a week has passed since the tsunami. That's one of the saddest things I've ever heard.
 
It's actually been a long, long time. But she brought it up recently so I feel really bad because I couldn't figure out what to do.
 
She doesn't even seem to be that attached to her cat if she can assume that her cat walked away and she didn't consider putting lost cat posters (this is my assumption).
 
Tell her, not-knowing keeps a wound fresh, grief passes.
 
nismaratwork said:
Tell her, not-knowing keeps a wound fresh, grief passes.
If she knows hers is dead, perhaps she will get another, instead of waiting and not knowing.
 
Evo said:
If she knows hers is dead, perhaps she will get another, instead of waiting and not knowing.

That's another good point, and a final one: she may feel guilty right now, but she shouldn't... the cat wasn't poorly cared for and ran away, it died.

@Newai: ALWAYS come clean in these situations, and if you're wondering who you're trying to do a favor for by shutting up, it's always you (aka the secret-holder).
 
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Newai said:
It's actually been a long, long time. But she brought it up recently so I feel really bad because I couldn't figure out what to do.

If she brought it up, then I think she still wonders and worries. Like others have said, not knowing is a terrible state of mind.

It would be kind of you to tell her.
 
  • #11
lisab said:
If she brought it up, then I think she still wonders and worries. Like others have said, not knowing is a terrible state of mind.

It would be kind of you to tell her.

Even more so, it would be cruel not to.
 
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  • #12
had one get trapped under the neighbor's house, once. it's amazing how much weight they can lose in a week.

if it were a week ago, i'd certainly tell her. worry over possible suffering can be terribly troubling. but if it's really been a long time, it depends. on whether she'd going to hate you or not. or if she's still worrying over whether it suffered. if it helps to tell her it passed quickly, i'd tell her that. if you can give her peace of mind, then i'd say do it.
 
  • #13
Proton Soup said:
had one get trapped under the neighbor's house, once. it's amazing how much weight they can lose in a week.

if it were a week ago, i'd certainly tell her. worry over possible suffering can be terribly troubling. but if it's really been a long time, it depends. on whether she'd going to hate you or not. or if she's still worrying over whether it suffered. if it helps to tell her it passed quickly, i'd tell her that. if you can give her peace of mind, then i'd say do it.

If she hates you, she hates you... that's the price of waiting. Tell.
 
  • #14
You could buy a similar one, get it stuffed and leave it in a prominent position.
 
  • #15
I am going to have to go against the grain here and suggest you just leave it be. She currently thinks kitty has run away and is living it up with someone else. As soon as you bring the truth to light, she is going to "play the mental movie" of kitty getting run over, did kitty suffer, where is kitty now, in the city dump with the trash, etc. I think this is a case where ignorance is bliss...
 
  • #16
nismaratwork said:
if you're wondering who you're trying to do a favor for by shutting up, it's always you

That's not the worst choice if you ask me.
 
  • #17
Borek said:
That's not the worst choice if you ask me.

Perhaps not the worst choice, but we shouldn't pretend that it's for someone else's sake. I'm not condemning all selfish acts, just the attempt at trying to justify them as a favor to another.
 
  • #18
I should mention other details, if it matters.

The cat was being taken care of by the parents of her girlfriend. I watched the mother go out in the winter cold for the next few nights calling out for the cat. It was such a sad sight.

I'll probably tell her this weekend. Not something I'm looking forward to.
 
  • #19
Newai said:
I should mention other details, if it matters.

The cat was being taken care of by the parents of her girlfriend. I watched the mother go out in the winter cold for the next few nights calling out for the cat. It was such a sad sight.

I'll probably tell her this weekend. Not something I'm looking forward to.

You're doing the right thing, and no need to get into gruesome details. Hell, lie on that front if you can get away with it and it's believable.
 
  • #20
This is such a huge can of worms. The city worker who disposed of the carcass had a huge fallout with her. Led to jail time, in fact.

All this over a dead cat. Part of me thinks it might be better to let it die.
 
  • #21
Newai said:
I should mention other details, if it matters.

The cat was being taken care of by the parents of her girlfriend. I watched the mother go out in the winter cold for the next few nights calling out for the cat. It was such a sad sight.

I'll probably tell her this weekend. Not something I'm looking forward to.

This part probably won't go over well.

Still, people always say that honesty is the best policy ...

... plus, I think we're all eager to hear how she reacts. This could be a very interesting story - maybe even better than the story of how tribdog managed to weld a frozen bottle of water to his girlfriend's carpet.
 
  • #22
Newai said:
This is such a huge can of worms. The city worker who disposed of the carcass had a huge fallout with her. Led to jail time, in fact.

All this over a dead cat. Part of me thinks it might be better to let it die.

Uhhhh... that adds a complication beyond the moral dimension. If this could land you in legal hot water, leave it be.

@BobG: I respect your love of entertainment (not sarcastic).
 
  • #23
BobG said:
This part probably won't go over well.

Still, people always say that honesty is the best policy ...

... plus, I think we're all eager to hear how she reacts. This could be a very interesting story - maybe even better than the story of how tribdog managed to weld a frozen bottle of water to his girlfriend's carpet.

I am going to bet my money on the outcome where OP disappears and never comes back to tell us the reaction of the girl and her mom :biggrin:

I don't know the aftermath of tribdog story but he sure came out alive but hasn't been here for a long long time now which makes me wonder what was the last adventure tribdog talked of.
 
  • #24
rootX said:
I am going to bet my money on the outcome where OP disappears and never comes back to tell us the reaction of the girl and her mom :biggrin:

I don't know the aftermath of tribdog story but he sure came out alive but hasn't been here for a long long time now which makes me wonder what was the last adventure tribdog talked of.

Nah, Newai will come back, but I also want to know what this welding was... it sounds fiendish!
 
  • #25
nismaratwork said:
Nah, Newai will come back, but I also want to know what this welding was... it sounds fiendish!

tribdog said:
I went to the refridgerator to get myself a drink of soda pop. Unfo rtunately there was no soda. I realized that when I got home from the store I had place the warm 2 liter bottle of Pepsi in the freezer. I opened the freezer and there was the Pepsi, frozen solid. I really wanted a drink so I grabbed my bottle of MAPP Gas and torch tip and proceeded to heat the bottom of the bottle. slowly the Pepsi started to melt. I set the torch down and took a drink, then I set the bottle down on the floor. A few minutes later, when I wanted another drink I reached for the bottle, but it was stuck to the floor. I pulled harder and-with a tearing sound-the bottle came free. I looked down and there on the carpet I saw a round burn mark. I guess the bottom of the bottle was still pretty dang hot when I put it down.
All this happened about ten minutes ago, my girlfriend will be home any second and I have a huge burn in the middle of the carpet. Nice knowing you all. Any suggestions on what I should do?

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=7021&page=1
 
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nismaratwork said:
Rootx beat yah, but I thank you nonetheless!

I laughed out loud... HARD.

I noticed that as soon as it was posted and deleted it very quickly. But not quick enough! :smile:

But yeah, a classic for a reason.
 
  • #29
I wouldn't tell her, mainly because I wouldn't care enough.
 
  • #30
1MileCrash said:
I wouldn't tell her, mainly because I wouldn't care enough.

Hmmmm... did we start fires a lot as a kid? :wink:
 

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