How important is your first year of engineering/other degree?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the significance of the first year in engineering or other degree programs, exploring whether it is critical for future academic success or if merely passing is sufficient. Participants share personal experiences and varying perspectives on the importance of grades and foundational knowledge acquired during this initial year.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Personal experience

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the first year may not count towards the degree, implying that passing might be sufficient.
  • Others argue that the first year is crucial for building foundational knowledge necessary for later courses, emphasizing the importance of doing well.
  • A participant mentions that in their university system, the first year is treated similarly to subsequent years in terms of credit importance.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges of transitioning from high school to college, with some noting that high school does not adequately prepare students for the demands of college-level coursework.
  • One participant reflects on their personal struggles during their first year, indicating that external factors can impact academic performance.
  • Another participant advises against letting personal relationships interfere with academic responsibilities, suggesting a focus on education.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the importance of the first year, with no clear consensus on whether it is merely a pass/fail situation or if striving for high grades is essential for future success.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the variability in university systems and personal circumstances that can affect academic performance, indicating that experiences may differ widely among students.

Who May Find This Useful

Students entering engineering or other degree programs, academic advisors, and individuals interested in the transition from high school to college-level education.

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Someone said my first year doesn't even count towards my degree. Does this mean that I only have to pass this year (not with flying colours)?
 
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I don't know how the university systems works there. But mine, the spanish one is public and the first degree is hard because there is when students really decide if they want to continue or not.

Here, the first year counts as the rest of the years, depending on how much credits (1 credit = 10 hours of class) duration has that concrect year.

I think you have to do the better you can in your first year.
 
You only have to pass any year... That is unless you feel like going on to grad school, doing research for a professor in your undergraduate years, or wowing the employers when you are looking for your first job.

Talk to your advisor to find out what's really going on with your questions. Each school is different, and people who say that "something doesn't count so don't bother" typically don't know what they're talking about.
 
First year classes are so easy that if you are worried about getting good grades in them you probably won't be able to get good grades in the harder ones later, so passing is all that matters. If you can get good grades in the harder classes quit being lazy and get good grades in the easy ones too
 
If anything, pay more attention in your first year. Stuff like science builds quite rapidly and if you don't know how to do a cross product or basic integral, you will be in a lot of trouble in a couple years.
 
mathlete said:
If anything, pay more attention in your first year. Stuff like science builds quite rapidly and if you don't know how to do a cross product or basic integral, you will be in a lot of trouble in a couple years.

A lot of trouble?

If you managed to stay in for a couple years, I'm sure you can figure that out in a minute or two.

I do agree that the most important things are in the first year. Trying telling this to the eager high school students who are trying to jump on the university bus with no math tools.
 
My first semester was a swift kick in the rear that made me get my head straight. High school really does not prepare you for college at all these days. My calculus 2 professor was particularly demanding, and from him I learned a great deal about my own mathematical skill. My other engineering related class was a drafting/autoCAD class, which required a high magnitude of constant work that challenged me.

If you go to college your first semester and you are not trying your hardest to better yourself, I consider it a waste of time. By doing more than the minimum required of me, I managed to have this entire semester (my fall junior year) filled with physics and an engineering class which I am not scheduled to take until next semester.
 
You should try and do your best every year in school.

My first year was plagued with a lof of problems, like going to the university with my gf from home - and fighting EVERY day, so I couldn't get my work done.

This killed me, and I finished my first year with a pretty low GPA, a 2.5. I know I am capable of much more, so this year I'm working towards it.
 
I would recommend that you dump your girlfriend. Never let a girlfriend get in the way of something important like that.
 

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