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fbsthreads
Oct25-04, 01:56 PM
i know you can ionize water to make it magnetic, but some people claim if you put a glass of normal water on a magnet (so the water is in a magnetic field) it will become magnetized in a few minutes.
my guess would be that water particles are too free to become magnetically aligned, and so it won't work.
what do you people know?
russ_watters
Oct25-04, 08:26 PM
Since water molecules are lopsided, they are magnetic. When water freezes, they line up according to their magnetic poles. I guess holding a magnet to a glass of water would line the molecules up a little, but it wouldn't be permanent.
Paramagnetic? I've never seen water as doing this before.
4newton
Oct26-04, 03:36 AM
There are flow meters that use this electromagnetic principal of liquids. I looked into making a knot meter for boats using this. It works but the cost is too high compared with other methods.
Chi Meson
Oct26-04, 09:04 AM
You can create a net magnetic field by having any charged substance move in a direction. If you ionized water and caused ot to swirl in a circle, then you would have moving charges and hence a magnetic dipole field.
As already noted by Russ, water is already "magnetic", but the magnetic dipole moments of the water molecule are very small.
Russ:
here's a point I can't remember: is water diamagnetic or paramagnetic? Mk said "para" but I thought it was "dia."
edit:
OK, I looked it up, water is "diamagnetic," buyt doesn't that mean the natural dipole moment of water should be zero? It's been too long!
Ahh, yes, I was asking a question actually.
russ_watters
Oct27-04, 09:48 AM
Chemistry ain't my thing guys, and when you start using those big words, I need to Google them too... But I'll take a stab at it: water is a liquid and therefore, (I think) only diamagnetic at a molecular level (hydrogen bonds) - as opposed to a metal rod that can be magnetized as a whole.
Chi Meson
Oct27-04, 01:14 PM
Yeh, it's not exactly life-changing is it? My anxiety grows proportionally to the mound of things I've forgotten.
Yeh, it's not exactly life-changing is it? My anxiety grows proportionally to the mound of things I've forgotten.
Heh, me too.
I guess you must be happy, Red Sox won. :biggrin:
Pieter Kuiper
Oct28-04, 07:18 AM
Water is diamagnetic, as you can see on the following web page:
http://www.matchrockets.com/water/diamagh2o.html
Chi Meson
Oct28-04, 08:58 AM
Water is diamagnetic, as you can see on the following web page:
http://www.matchrockets.com/water/diamagh2o.html
Nice site. It has a great demo too. thnx!
Gokul43201
Oct28-04, 10:33 AM
You can not "magnetize" a para- or dia-magnet as their B-H curves are not hysteretic. To magnetize something, you want to have a a residual magnetization in the absence of a applied field. This can be an energy minimizing state only if there is an energy associated with some mechanism such as domain wall breaking (ie: in a ferro-magnet).
Chi Meson
Oct28-04, 11:09 AM
Right! I was just about to say that! :uhh:
FranZFenX
Jan18-09, 12:09 PM
Look, i am a 12 year-old boy, and i need help with my homework. I need you to tell me the steps to magnetize water, i have to make a project for a science fair
fizz_it
Jan19-09, 04:11 PM
Hope this helps
http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/diamagnetism_www/index.html
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