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maverick_starstrider
Jun4-11, 12:53 PM
Seriously, what is the origin of this phrase? Is it like one of those rotating tables at dim sum, or does "turning" mean flipping over like in a gun fight? I don't know. My best guess is it's referring to gambling when there's like a losing blackjack table or something and then a person suddenly starts winning... Anyone know the origin of this phrase? Wait, is it, again at a gambling table, when the dealer and the player switch (since the position is allocated on the table)?

russ_watters
Jun4-11, 01:14 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/390300.html

maverick_starstrider
Jun4-11, 01:52 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/390300.html

Seriously? backgammon? Wow, I never want to use that phrase again.

turbo
Jun4-11, 01:58 PM
When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.

Jimmy Snyder
Jun4-11, 02:14 PM
When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.
Me too. When I found myself losing, I would just turn the table thus ending the game and maintaining my undefeated status.

GeorginaS
Jun4-11, 03:14 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/390300.html
Handy dandy site.

maverick_starstrider
Jun4-11, 04:08 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/390300.html

Although I suppose it's allegedly the oldest surviving game.

fluidistic
Jun4-11, 08:42 PM
When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.

I'd love to play with a grand master who would do this once per game :D