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DaveC426913
Jun20-11, 01:33 PM
I just bought lunch at Quizno's. On top of a cabinet, between the cash register and the fountaion drink machine, in essentially the most prominent place in the establishment is this little framed 3" square metal plaque. It's like a little boiler plate off a machine - the lettering is stamped into the metal.
This is what is on the plaque:
12 7 14
13 11 9
8 15 10
It is the numbers 8 through 15 arranged in a seemingly patternless 3x3 grid.
I have no idea what the purpose of this little plaque is. Takers?
I see a lot of "33s" there. (8 of 'em)
DaveC426913
Jun20-11, 01:57 PM
Wow. Yeah. That's no coincidence.
DaveC426913
Jun20-11, 01:58 PM
Perhaps the display is not a functional component at all. Perhaps it is aesthetic.
It would appear to be a magic square...
Indeed, Googling "magic square 33" turns it up many times:
http://rlv.zcache.com/magic_square_33_poster-p228123842439730109t5wm_400.jpg
ksmith1281
Jun20-11, 01:59 PM
This looks to be what I heard to be called a Magic Square. It is a unique square matrix where the sum of any row, column, and diagonal will equal some constant. From what I know, this is the only requirement of the Magic Square however I have only seen ones where the constant that each row, column, and diagonal sum equals is
Matrix Constant= n(n^2+1)/2.
where n is the dimension of the square matrix (also I think a 2x2 doesn't exist, but 1,3,4,5,...etc does). Since this matrix satisfies the rule of Magic Squares. Then the question I would be curious to ask is what is the significance of this matrix being at Quizno's?
DaveC426913
Jun20-11, 02:05 PM
Then the question I would be curious to ask is what is the significance of this matrix being at Quizno's?
Two theories:
1] It is a proud display of some manager's child's abilities at either math or machine shop or both.
2] Some manager is a math buff and is just waiting for someone to ask what that plaque is for...
DaveC426913
Jun22-11, 04:46 PM
3] (The winner): It was a gift, as a good luck charm. The manager had no idea of the significance of the numbers until I pointed it out.
3] (The winner): It was a gift, as a good luck charm.
Did you ask if the gift was from,
1] some other manager's child's with the abilities at either math or machine shop or both.
2] Some other manager that is a math buff
?
DaveC426913
Jun22-11, 09:38 PM
Did you ask if the gift was from,
1] some other manager's child's with the abilities at either math or machine shop or both.
2] Some other manager that is a math buff
?
Well, she said that the person who gave it to her told her that she should put it in a prominent place and aligned with (I dunno, uh...) the Feng Shui of the establishment.
I gathered pretty quickly that there was no math appreciation in the giver here, simply some superstition around magic squares.
Well, she said that the person who gave it to her told her that she should put it in a prominent place and aligned with (I dunno, uh...) the Feng Shui of the establishment.
I gathered pretty quickly that there was no math appreciation in the giver here, simply some superstition around magic squares.
OMG. I was hoping for [1]; some smart kid being involved. What a let down. :frown:
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