Methods for convergence divergence

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{1}{n^2+n+1}}\). Participants are exploring various methods to determine the behavior of this series, including the comparison test and integral test.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use the comparison test with two series, questioning the validity of their approach and the implications of their findings. Some participants clarify the distinction between series and sequences, emphasizing the importance of the sequence of partial sums in determining convergence.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications about the definitions of series and sequences. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the convergence of the series, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached on the final outcome.

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There is confusion regarding the notation and limits used in the expressions, particularly concerning the upper limit of summation and the behavior of sequences versus series. Participants are also considering the implications of using the integral test.

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I have [tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{1}{n^2+n+1}}[/tex] and I need to show that it converges or diverges. I choose to do the comparison test making [tex]A_n=\sum_{n=1}^\infty{\frac{1}{n^2+n+1}}[/tex] and[tex]B_n=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2+n}[/tex] so far so good? Okay well [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow0}B_n=0[/tex] so does [tex]A_n[/tex] converge...i see that the upper limit of [tex]A_n[/tex] would turn out to be [tex]0[/tex] what does this mean...is it valid to use the rule I used?

what if did [tex]\int_{1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x^2+x+1}dx[/tex] is that possible or is there no need?
 
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Here, you are confusing indexes!

Your expressions have no meaning; what convergence in this case means, is that the SEQUENCE OF PARTIAL (FINITE!) SUMS CONVERGE.

Hence, your index in that sequence SHOULD BE THE UPPER LIMIT VALUE IN THE SUM, not the summation index you've used!

We therefore have the partial sum:
[tex]A_{N}=\sum_{n=1}^{N}\frac{1}{n^{2}+n+1}[/tex]

Our question is therefore:
Does the sequence [tex]A_{N}[/tex] converge as [tex]N\to\infty[/tex] ??

To help you on your way, note that:
[tex]A_{N}\leq{B}_{N},B_{N}=\sum_{n=1}^{N}\frac{1}{n^{2}}[/tex]
 
thats a p series and its greater than one...easy...so [tex]A_n[/tex] must converge...is that my answer?
 
That's right.
 
You are also confusing "series" and "sequences". If
[tex]B_n=\sum_{n=1}^{N}\frac{1}{n^2+n}[/tex]

then [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow0}B_n=0[/tex]
is NOT true. What is true is that the SEQUENCE {Bn[/b]} goes to 0 and that tells you nothing about the series! (If the sequence did NOT converge to 0, that would tell you that the series does not converge.)
 

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