Interesting rebuttle to the 'vote for values'

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between social values, divorce rates, and charitable contributions across different states in the U.S. Participants explore correlations between these factors, particularly in the context of political affiliations and religious demographics.

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  • One participant notes that divorce rates are higher in Bible Belt states compared to Massachusetts, suggesting implications for the concept of "sanctity of marriage."
  • Another participant proposes that the lower divorce rates in the Northeast may be influenced by the high percentage of Catholics in that region.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty about the value of charitable donations to churches, questioning whether they are inherently positive or negative.
  • It is mentioned that the top 25 states in terms of charitable contributions all voted for Bush, raising questions about the nature of those donations.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on what types of donations are included in the calculations of charitable contributions.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of divorce rates and charitable contributions, with no consensus reached on the interpretations of these correlations or their significance.

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Participants reference specific demographic factors and political contexts, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of these relationships or the definitions of charitable contributions.

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http://www.sciencemusings.com/blog/2004/11/evidence-based-reality.html

We know, for example, that the divorce rate is highest in Bible Belt states and lowest in Massachusetts, which says something, I suppose, about the "sanctity of marriage." (Born-again Christians divorce just as often as the rest of us.) The teen pregnancy rate also tends to be higher in red states than blue states. The abortion rate is the same in Texas and Massachusetts. And so on.

Follow the links for further discussion, like this one...
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/
 
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Just FYI, the correlation between lower divorce rates in the Northeast may in part be due to the high percentage of Catholics who live there.


http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/db/generosity.php?year=2004 is a factor of the Average Adjusted Gross Income of a state, and the Average Charitable Contribution of that state.

The top 25 Charitable states all went to Bush.
 
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I'm not able to decide whether giving money to a church is more of a good thing or a bad thing. :confused:
 
kat said:
Just FYI, the correlation between lower divorce rates in the Northeast may in part be due to the high percentage of Catholics who live there.

Yep, the second link I provided talks about that a bit.

The top 25 Charitable states all went to Bush.

Interesting, but Gokul43201 raises a good question. What kind of donations are included in that calculation?
 

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