Calculating Forces on Sliding Box

  • Thread starter Thread starter Tanya Back
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Box Force Sliding
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the normal force and force of friction acting on a box being pushed by a gardener. The problem involves applying Newton's laws in the context of forces acting at angles and includes considerations of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of drawing a free-body diagram to visualize the forces acting on the box. There are questions about the correct components of the forces involved, particularly regarding the angle of the applied force and how it affects the normal force calculation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the setup of the problem and the components of the forces. Some have suggested corrections to the original poster's approach, and there is a recognition of the need to accurately represent the forces in the free-body diagram.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's calculations were based on an incorrect interpretation of the forces involved, particularly the angle of the applied force. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly account for these forces in the context of Newton's laws.

Tanya Back
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
Hey

I am having trouble doing this question-->

A gardener exerts a force of 150 N [ 22 degrees below the horizontal] in pushing a large 18 Kg box a distance of 1.6 m. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the floor is 0.55.
Question -->
Use Newton's law to determine magnitudes of the normal force and force of friction on the box?

Solution :

Fn= Fag perpendicular
= Fgcosa
= (9.8)(18)cos22
= 164 N

Ff= uFn
=0.55(164)
= 89.9 N
***********
My answers are wrong becasue the answer is suppose to be Fn = 230 N and Ff= 130 N
What did i do wrong? how can i fix it?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Well first of all draw yourself a free-body diagram. The normal force points directly upwards. There are two forces that are pointing downwards. Since there is no up or down motion the normal force must be equal to the two.
 
ohh k ...so Fg + 150 = Fn ?
 
Nope, but you're getting closer. The force that the gardener applies is at an angle. So only the vertical component points downwards. Did you draw your free-body diagram?
 
Oh.. Yah i drew the free-body diagram..and i got something like this -->

its like Fgcos22 + 150cos68 = Fn
 
Why do you have the cos22 for the force of gravity? I think you might have drawn your free body diagram wrong. Can you show me a crude drawing of it looks like?
 
OHHHHHH! opps ...i meant to write Fg + 150cos68= Fn
so it's like 174 + 56 = 230... Thank u sooo Much !
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K