How Does a Spring's Vibration Change Over Time?

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The discussion revolves around the oscillatory motion of a spring with a specific spring constant and mass attached. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of the spring's motion over time, including aspects such as amplitude, phase angle, and forces involved at various instances.

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  • Participants discuss the equation of motion for the spring and the determination of the phase angle. There are inquiries about solving for maximum and minimum lengths, as well as the displacement and force at specific times. Some participants express confusion over variable definitions and the implications of negative time solutions.

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Several participants have made progress in identifying parameters such as amplitude and angular frequency. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the phase angle and how to interpret negative time solutions. Guidance has been offered on using known values to determine the phase angle, and the periodic nature of the motion has been acknowledged.

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A spring with spring constant 230 N/m vibrates with an amplitude of 12.0 cm when 0.530 kg hangs from it.

(a) What is the equation describing this motion as a function of time? Assume the mass passes through the equilibrium point, toward positive x (upward), at t = 0.120 s.

The equation is:
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(b) At what times will the spring have its maximum and minimum lengths? (Consider only the first instances after t = 0.)

(c) What is the displacement and direction at t = 0?

(d) What is the force and its direction exerted by the spring at t = 0?

(e) What is the maximum speed?

When is it first reached after t = 0?
 
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So? What have you tried so far?
 
I was able to find both A and w, but I can't find the phase angle...and i think everything else that follows requires it.
 
You have x(t)=Acos(wt+phi). Also, you know x(0.120)=0. Do you think this might be sufficient to determine phi?
 
(In addition, of course, you have to note that x is increasing at 0.120 s)
 
I need help solving for c. I know that minimum length equation is -12=12*cos(wt+phi) and maximum is 12=12*cos(wt+phi), and I only w and phi, how do I solve for t using algebraic operations?
 
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Please, anyone?
 
What IS c? Your original problem made no mention of "A", "w", or "C". Are you referring to phi, the phase angle still? But then you end with "how do I solve for t using algebraic operations?" Did you mean "t" instead of "c"? Which t do you want? t is a variable.
 
OK, I was able to figure out parts a and c. But for b) and e) when I solved for t, it's negative. So how to I find instances after t=0?

Also, Isn't d) just F=-kx? But the force given by the book is so small compared to my answer.
 
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OK, I was able to figure out parts a and c. But for b) and e) when I solved for t, it's negative. So how to I find instances after t=0?
The motion is periodic: it repeats exactly every period. (What's the period?)

Also, Isn't d) just F=-kx? But the force given by the book is so small compared to my answer.
Yes, the force obeys Hooke's law. That probably means you found the wrong displacement at t = 0.
 

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