Help With Heat Flow Questions: Find Temperature Equilibrium & Flow Lines

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The discussion revolves around two questions related to heat flow and temperature equilibrium lines in specific geometrical configurations. The first question involves a circle in the complex plane with defined temperature boundaries, while the second question features a thermometer-like shape extending along the y-axis with temperature markings. Participants seek clarification on how to identify temperature equilibrium lines and flow lines in these scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that heat flows in the direction of the thermal gradient, with temperature equilibrium lines being isotherms (constant temperature).
  • One participant expresses confusion about the problem's requirements and requests additional information for clarification.
  • Another participant proposes a model for the first problem involving two infinitely long parallel plates, suggesting a temperature function T(x,y)=50y-50 and indicating that heat flows vertically.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the temperature distribution on the circle, with questions about whether the right side is at 0 degrees and the left side at 100 degrees, and how this affects the temperature formula.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between heat flow lines and isotherms, noting that heat flows from high to low temperatures and that flow lines are perpendicular to isothermal lines.
  • One participant suggests that the upper left portion of the circle is at 100°C and the upper right at 0°C, questioning how isotherms would transition between these temperatures.
  • Another participant inquires about the temperatures in the remaining portions of the circle and requests visual aids to illustrate isotherm placements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various interpretations of the problems, with no consensus reached on the specific temperature distributions or the correct approach to solving the questions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the temperature equilibrium lines and flow lines.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of the problems and the need for further clarification on the assumptions regarding temperature boundaries and the geometrical configurations presented.

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I got 2 questions and I have no idea what they are asking so hopefully someone can help me out here.

1. Find the temperature equilibrium lines and flow lines for :

Its just a graph of a circle in the complex plane of radius 1. The 4 points on the axes are labeled and it says 0 degress celsius in the first quadrant and 100 degress celsius in the 2nd quadrant.

2. Find the temperature equilibrium lines and flow lines for :

It looks like a thermometer that extends along the y-axis from 1 to 3. Right below the x-axis it says 0 degress and at the top of the thermometer it says 100 degress.
 
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Heat flows in the direction of the thermal gradient, while the temperature equilibrium lines are isotherms (constant temperature).
 
The problem is I don't really understand what is being asked here. Can you give me a little more info on how to do this problem.
 
Im looking through the book to find out what in the world is going on here and its not helping at all.

This is a picture of the first problem :
http://members.aol.com/HomesDelicious/pic1.jpg
This is a picture of the second problem :
http://members.aol.com/HomesDelicious/pic2.jpg

Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
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Anyone got anything. I got to hand this in by tomorrow afternoon.
 
Anyone. I have no idea what he is asking in this problem.
 
Ive come to the conclusion that for the first problem I think its two infinintly long parallel plates one at y=1 and one at y=3 so that T(x,y)=50y-50 and that heat flows vertically in the negative y direction along lines x=const. For the second problem I still have no idea. Is it implied that the right side of the circle is at 0 degrees while the left side is at 100 degrees. I think that's what the ticks at i and -i are for as there are not ticks at 1 and -1 but what does this mean. I can't write a formula for the temperature because it varies between different parts of the circle in relation to the radius. Can someone please help me with these questions.
 
The heat flow lines are perpendicular to isothermal (lines of constant temperature, or temperature equilibrium lines).

Heat flows from high temperature (100°C) to low (0°C).

In problem 1, is the circle supposed to be a conductor?

If the boundaries are at the temperatures specified in the quadrants, then you will have a discontinuity at the point on the circle on the vertical axis.

With symmetric boundary conditions, a point equi-distant from the two temperatures will have a temperature as the average of the two - think in terms of symmetry - where would the temperature be 50°C?
 
Would the temperature be 50 on the vertical axis. Would the temperature equilibrium lines just be vertical lines within the circle.
 
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As far as I can tell the upper left portion of the circle/disk is at 100°C, and the upper right portion is at 0°C, each is an isotherm.

If the vertical axis is an isotherm of 50°C, then the isotherms in between must transition from a straight line to a circular arc - right?

In problem 2, it seems to be a linear geometry. So the flow lines must be along the axis and the isotherms are perpendicular (horizontal). Again think symmetry.

The same applies to electric potentials - think of equi-potentials.

Have you done much with vector fields and potentials, yet?
 
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Well then what would the temperatures of the 2 other portions of the circle be. Do you think you can edit my picture showing me where the isotherms would be.
 

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