Who is doing AMWAY ?

[Saint]

Recently I met a few Amway members, asking me to join MLM (multi level marketing),

but i got no time,
i agree with their concept, which is good and can make you rich and successful if you are persistent and know how to do it.


Anyone here is doing Amway ? Can you share with us your experience ?

[Ivan Seeking]

When I was eighteen I had a down-line of about 50 people; some very rich people too. I was well on my way until I figured out the great deception. When your downline goes direct, you lose their down-line; so the pyramid does not keep building [oh, the expansion of circles, excuse me]. The real money is made by selling all of the motivational seminars, books and tapes [CD's] to the never ending stream of new suckers. Of course, a fundamental premise of Amway is that if you're serious, you will attend every seminar, and buy every book and CD put out by your upline.

It really hit me while I was sitting in a hotel conference room with about 500 other people at about 11:30 P.M. on a Saturday night, and while listening to a half a dozen Diamonds and double Diamonds explain how they retired on Amway. Hmmm...if they retired, why were they working on a Saturday night? Then I thought about all of those expensive motorhomes parked outside. Why motorhomes? Because they're not home! No, they are giving a lecture in some hotel on a Saturday night; and a long way from home.

Amways sells a clever form of greed; they appeal to your goodness to exploit your greed. In fact many of the multi-level marketing outfits use this ploy. You want to help others become successful, don't you? You owe your family, don't you? Then they appeal to your patriotism - Amway comes from American Way. See the book written by, I kid you not, Paul Conn. :rofl: [with an author named Conn, I should have seen it coming]. Then they show you their jewels and expensive homes in Hawaii, and the Amway helicopter that picks you up from your real job when you go Diamond -as your retirement kick off. :rofl:

They convince you that, since you are really helping them, it is okay to lie to your family, friends and acquaintances. You don't think you're lying but you are. You become so embedded in the lies that you start to believe it yourself. When I figured out the psychological tricks and numbers games used, I could no longer continue with a good conscience

It is a total sucker's game.

[Ivan Seeking]

Oh yes, I also noticed after some time that most of their products are seriously over-priced and over-rated. When they branched out into stereos and such, they carried only the cheesiest brands.

[Saint]

but why Amway is still making money though many members failed

[Ivan Seeking]

That's the whole point. Amway is making money; not most of the people doing it. They depend on the constant stream of new suckers.

[Saint]

how to climb up to diamond ?

[The_Professional]

You're better off starting your own business with your own money. Doing that part-time, while still keeping your day job.

[Ivan Seeking]

how to climb up to diamond ?

Be a lying crook.

[Ivan Seeking]

Okay I am missing one group. There are people who simply sell the products and then sponsor a few other people who do the same. This is done to provide a supplemental income. I never found this group to be anything but typically honest, hard working people.

[Echo 6 Sierra]

Quixtar (sp) is the bastard child of amway.

[russ_watters]

how to climb up to diamond ? It should be clear from Ivan's earlier posts: be good at motivating suckers to be suckers.

I interviewed at Green Mountain Energy one summer during college. Being an engineering student and a utility consultant (working for my dad), the guy giving the spiel said I'd be great at it. But the flashing red light in the back of my head motivated me to do a little research first. SCAM!

Direct pyramid schemes are illegal, and I don't see why these aren't cracked down on as well.

[Saint]

Amway is listed in malaysia stock market,
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/charts/l.asp?code=6351~AMWAY&p1=6.65&p2=6.7&p3=6.7&p4=6.6&p5=6.65&p6=0&p7=0.00&p8=232&p9=22.082

[Janitor]

Two people who were the barest of acquaintances to me asked me this question: "Are you really satisfied with your job and your life?" The first time I thought it was just a friendly question, but it turned out to be the beginning of a pitch for Amway. Very little was said about the products they sell. But "Man, Mary Lou Retton spoke at the last seminar I went to!" And the motivational books and tapes--you gotta watch them, friend.

The second time I was asked that question I should have remembered what was coming, but I didn't. ("Fool me twice...") But it turned out not to be a pitch for Amway membership. Nope. Instead it was the start of a pitch for Pre-paid Legal.

[Janitor]

Another story...

My first flight on a commercial airliner was when I was 17. I was walking through my destination airport, the big one in Denver. This flower-child looking woman of about 25 walks up to me and says, "Hey, you are one great looking guy..." Now I was perfectly aware that I was not God's gift to the ladies in the looks department, so I knew right off the bat that something was fishy. It turned out that she wanted a donation in exchange for the book in her hand that looked like some sort of East Indian mystical stuff. Hare Krishna? Not sure. But I didn't sucker into buying it.