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DeadWolfe
Nov17-04, 10:55 PM
I was asked to find

\lim_{x\rightarrow0+} x^2 \ln x

Using L'Hoptial's rule.

I guess that I have to divide by one of these things to the power of negative one, and then take the derivative of top and bottom, but this results in either dividing by zero if I put x^2 on the bottom, or not losing ln x if I put it on the bottom, because of the chain rule.

I really am doubting that L'Hopital is the way to go about this, but that's what I was told on a test today.

Any ideas?

StatusX
Nov17-04, 11:06 PM
You aren't dividing by 0 by putting x^2 on the bottom. Remember, this is a limit, the values aren't fixed.

\frac{ln(x)}{1/x^2}

\frac{1/x}{-2/x^3}

-x^2/2

0

Zlex
Nov17-04, 11:11 PM
I was asked to find

\lim_{x\rightarrow0+} x^2 \ln x

Using L'Hoptial's rule.

I guess that I have to divide by one of these things to the power of negative one, and then take the derivative of top and bottom, but this results in either dividing by zero if I put x^2 on the bottom, or not losing ln x if I put it on the bottom, because of the chain rule.

I really am doubting that L'Hopital is the way to go about this, but that's what I was told on a test today.

Any ideas?

\lim_{x\rightarrow0+} \frac{x^3 \ln x}{x}

DeadWolfe
Nov17-04, 11:42 PM
StatusX - thank you, I tihnk that works

Zlex - do you see how that method will not eliminate the ln x because of the product rule?

addle_brains
May7-09, 11:15 AM
Hey everyone. I know this question is old but I'm trying to solve exactly the same problem. Could anyone explain it to me a little better? I'm having trouble seeing how StatusX got the answer.

I understand L'Hopital's rule but how the derivatives of f(g) and f(h) were found is confusing me.

Cyosis
May7-09, 11:56 AM
The derivatives of f(g) and f(h)? Do you mean f(x) and g(x)? Either way they did the following:

x^2 \ln x=\frac{\ln x}{x^{-2}} \Rightarrow f(x)=\ln x, g(x)=x^{-2} \Rightarrow \lim_{x \to 0+}x^2 \ln x=\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)}=\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}=\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{\frac{1}{x}}{-2 x^{-3}}=\lim_{x \to 0+} -2 x^2.

HallsofIvy
May7-09, 12:01 PM
The numerator, in Statusx's form, is ln(x), and the denominator is 1/x2= x-2.

The derivative of ln(x) is a "standard form", derived from the fact that the derivative of ex is ex. d(ln(x))/dx= 1/x.

The derivative of x-2 is, of course, from the power rule: (-2)x-2-1= -2x-3= -2/x3.

addle_brains
May7-09, 12:05 PM
Thanks guys. That helps a lot. I still don't know every little trick of derivatives and such.