Is Speed the Same as Velocity in Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distinction between speed and velocity in physics, particularly in the context of a test question regarding a baseball thrown toward home plate. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these terms, as well as the clarity of the question posed.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that the question is poorly phrased and lacks clarity, suggesting that "this" does not refer to a specific physical quantity, making it difficult to classify as speed or velocity.
  • Another participant clarifies that speed is a scalar quantity (magnitude only), while velocity is a vector quantity (magnitude and direction), emphasizing the importance of direction in defining velocity.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the phrase "toward home plate" does indicate a direction, thus qualifying it as a velocity, while also noting that speed is merely a magnitude.
  • One participant questions the interpretation of the question, asserting that without a specific speed or velocity stated, the action of throwing itself cannot be classified as either.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of the test question and the definitions of speed and velocity. There is no consensus on whether the question was appropriately framed or whether the baseball's motion can be classified as speed or velocity without additional information.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the phrasing of the question, particularly the ambiguity of the term "this" and the absence of a specific physical quantity to analyze.

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I understand the basics of speed and velocity, but I got a rather backhanded question on a recent test that I believe was marked incorrectly.

Q: A baseball is thrown toward home plate. Is this a speed or a velocity?

I said it was a speed, the ball could have been thrown from anywhere toward home plate. When I asked why it was a velocity, the response was that although the direction is unknown, it still has a direction. But then by that logic, all speeds would be velocities because they have to be traveling in a direction, even if it is not given. Did my teacher screw me over? Where am I going wrong?
 
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Without being too picky, speed is a size. Velocity is that size combined with a direction.

Look for the meanings of the words, "scalar", and "vector".
 
I would say it is neither. It is a direction. Speed is a magnitude, and velocity is a magnitude and a direction.

Toward home plate is a valid direction. It means from the baseballs current location draw a line to home plate and the velocity is parallel to that line.
 
It's definitely a poorly-phrased question. "A baseball is thrown towards home plate. Is this a speed or a velocity?" Well, what does "this" refer to? Does it refer to the action of throwing a ball that was described in the previous sentence? If so, then "this" is neither a speed nor a velocity. It's a description of something that some person did. If you want to ask students to identify the type of a physical quantity, then you have to actually provide a physical quantity in your description. E.g. a ball is moving at 3.0 m/s towards home plate. Is this quantity mentioned above a speed or a velocity? Something like that would have been much better, in my opinion.
 

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