Solving Limits: Proving x→7 Sqrt(16-x)=3

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter bezgin
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Limits
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding the limit of the function as x approaches 7 for the expression Sqrt(16-x), specifically proving that Lim(x→7) Sqrt(16-x) = 3. The scope includes theoretical aspects of limits, definitions, and the delta-epsilon relation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the definition of limits and requests a step-by-step explanation for proving the limit.
  • Another participant suggests that substituting x=7 into the function Sqrt(16-x) shows that the limit approaches 3, but acknowledges that this substitution alone does not constitute a proof.
  • A different participant raises a question about the concept of removable discontinuities, particularly in cases where limits approach infinity, and questions the terminology used to describe such discontinuities.
  • One participant mentions that delta-epsilon relations are used to define continuity rather than limits, indicating a potential misunderstanding of their application.
  • Another participant argues that if a limit approaches infinity, it typically indicates that the limit does not exist, challenging the notion of removable discontinuities in this context.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of the delta-epsilon definition in rigorously understanding limits.
  • One participant suggests that a deeper understanding of analytic functions and the residue theorem may aid in grasping the limit concept, discussing the approach to limits from different directions.
  • Another participant inquires if it is too late to provide help, indicating concern for the original poster's upcoming test.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of limits, particularly regarding removable discontinuities and the application of delta-epsilon definitions. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of definitions and the application of concepts like removable discontinuities and delta-epsilon relations. Some participants express uncertainty about the proper use of terminology and the implications of limits approaching infinity.

bezgin
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
I have a serious problem with understanding the definition of limits.

Prove that Lim(x->7) Sqrt(16-x)=3

I'd be grateful if you could explain why you do each step when you solve this question. Thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Another question:

If, say, Lim(x->a) f(x) = infinity (when you approach from both sides), we call the point x=a as a removable discontinuity. Why? How can we remove it? If the limit approached to a value such as c, then we could define the function to be f(a) = c
Now, when it approaches infinity, we still call it removable discontinuity but it can't be removed by assigning a value!
 
Sirus said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_of_a_function

By substituting x=7 into [itex]f(x)=\sqrt{16-x}[/itex], we find that when x approaches 7, f(x) approaches 3.

I meant to prove it by using the delta-epsilon relation. Substitution doesn't prove anything, of course. But I don't really understand HOW the delta-epsilon relation does.
 
Please reply! I have a midterm on saturday.
 
Many other PF members are much better qualified to answer this than I am. AFAIK, delta-epsilon relations are used to define continuity, not really to explain limits.
 
bezgin said:
If, say, Lim(x->a) f(x) = infinity (when you approach from both sides), we call the point x=a as a removable discontinuity.

Who called such a discontinuity removable? You might want to check your definitions carefully. If a one sided limit "equals" infinity most definitions will say the limit does not exist (this isn't "equal" in the usual sense, it's really a way of keeping track of how the limit diverges). This goes for two sided limits as well-even if the left and right handed limits are both infinity, most definitions will say the limit does not exist.


Sirus, epsilon-delta's are very much a part of the rigorous definition of limits.
 
First you need to know the exact interpretation if LIMIT CONCEPT.Perhaps a knowledge of Analytic function and residue theorem can help you.
Take for instance,a point in a number line can be approached from different directions(ideally infinity),ie,through X axis or through y-axis or even in an oblique axis.Limit of a function accentuates upon the point that no matter whatever direction we take to approach a value,the vlaue of the fuction at that partiicular point is the result that you get(in your case it is 3).This is what limit of a function denotes.Thats why when we take Z transform we rely upon jordn contour and the region of convergence is taken as the distance between two poles along the path of traversal.

Regards
drdolittle
 
is it too late to be of help? i know your test is over but is there another one later? the answers so far are not much to the point.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 53 ·
2
Replies
53
Views
8K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K