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seydunas
Oct24-11, 01:50 PM
Hi,

I want to charectize the function whose cube is smooth from R to R. For example x^1/3 is smooth and olsa any polynomial but how can i charectrize it?

Thanks

Bacle2
Oct25-11, 01:26 PM
Do you have any special form in mind? You could just take the cube root of smooth functions.

seydunas
Oct25-11, 04:38 PM
i just want to ask what are the functions whose cube is smooth?

TGlad
Oct25-11, 05:56 PM
Its just the cube root of any smooth function, what else do you want to know? How to characterise a smooth function? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smooth_function

Jamma
Oct30-11, 12:14 PM
Wait, isn't the function f(x)=x^3 a diffeomorphism? So any function for which its cube is smooth must be smooth itself (just apply the inverse of f to it).

Bacle2
Nov1-11, 05:12 PM
Jamma:

f(x)=x is smooth, but f(x)=x1/3 is not. And f(x)=x3 is not a diffeo. from ℝ to ℝ , since its inverse x1/3 is not differentiable at 0.

Jamma
Nov2-11, 10:09 AM
Oops, oh yeah, the OP wrote that and I just blurted it out without checking.

It is a local diffeomorphism elsewhere though, so if we're looking for an example of a function which isn't smooth but whose cube is, it'll have to be smooth everywhere except the origin where it must not be but is after we've cubed it. I'm not sure how to characterise such things- but they clearly exist e.g. the cube root of x is such a function- it is not smooth but its cube is (you can also have the cube root of any smooth function as such a function).

Jamma
Nov2-11, 03:20 PM
Wait, clearly all such functions are of this form:

Suppose we have a function f for which its cube is smooth. This means that f^3 is smooth. But then the cube root of f^3 is the original function and is in the form "cube root of a smooth function". Conversely, the cube root of a smooth function will clearly cube to a smooth function, so there's your answer. Funny how sometimes you can completely miss the obvious!